She looks like an escapee from Coneheads.

@Nina

"As long as Serbia continues to hide war criminals and continues the policies it implemented under Milosevic there will not be any progress in the Balkans which only hurts the ordinary people who want to live in peace and improve their lives."

Serbia did not commit any crimes and Milosevich is a hero to Serbian people. He was doing his job--defending his people from the Muslims jihadists terrorizing Serbians. Bill Clinton is an idiot who bombed the wrong side. He should have bombed the Muslim terrorists.

Why is everyone so concerned whether Serbia attends or not?
What difference does it make, especially to the Albanians?
So I ask you Albanians, why do you care so much and why are you getting all hot and bothered about this? It has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Do you just want to find faults with Serbs and the topic doesn't matter?

Tadic is right in not attending and if this proves to be a mistake then Serbia will live with the consequences but somehow I don't think it's [...]

Read the full comment a mistake because the next meeting in Sarajevo will only allow Albanians to participate as Kosovo UNMIK or not at all.

Looks to me like Serbia played her cards right this time and it bothers our Albanians here so much that they have to come out and continually comment on this.

Let's see how hot and bothered you get after Sarajevo.

Well, when Serbia will stop with this embracing attitude?

OK, i understand they got a problem.

Why others (including Slovenia, Croatia, Kosova, Albania etc..., have to be made uncomfortable for the Serbia problems?

Neighbours want to be friendly with them but the patience has a limit. If Serbia wants to be integrated it's OK, but is silly to complain endlessly and idiotically.

This world is not only Serbia. Everyone has got it's own problems and does not have time to waste with Serbia's freaks! [...]

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There is no Kosovo Problem.

There only is the Serbian Problem.

From the Breakup of Yugoslavia, Directly caused by serb madmen, through ALL of the violence that occured across ALL ethnic and relgious lines in its breakup... the one and only common denominator Throughout ALL of it has been serbs.

@DEDA CVETKO who says "hat the UN Security Council resolution 1244 GUARANTEES Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo"

please dont be delusional... serbia and kosovo where 2 SIDES in Yugoslavia.

Today's Republic [...]

Read the full comment of Serbia Is in fact YOUNGER than the paper 1244 is written on...It is NOT the continuation of the sfry.. it was re admitted into the un AFTER THE FACT. It has NEVER held kosovo at all.

The ONLY thing 1244 garanteed is that serbia had 0 Authority whatsoever in Kosovo.

FACT.

time iz out,hang your gloves, and start leaving together in happy serbia

DADO:

You say: "If it takes another war to finally rid the region of the vile Chetnik ideology (etc.).

So, let me get this straight: by refusing to accept the violent partition of its Sovereign territory, the Serbs are becoming "chetniks" en masse?

Wow.

Does this mean that, in refusing to negotiate with Slovenia over the Piran Bay, Croatians have become Ustashas?

Also, does this mean that you are actually ADVOCATING another war in the Balkans?

NINA:

Serge Bramerz, the chief prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal CERTIFIED in his latest report to the United Nations' security council that Serbia was fully cooperating with the Tribunal and that neither the State of Serbia nor its agents or bodies were involved in attempts to hide Ratko Mladic.

So there.

Argument over. End of the story.

If Serbia refuses to attend regional meetings then that's their choice. Perhaps the best way for Serbian politicians to sober up to reality is for them to see their neighbors moving forwards while their country is stuck in place due to their own dysfunctional policies.

If it takes another war to finally rid the region of the vile Chetnik ideology that is destabilizing the Balkans then so be it, better for it to happen and be done with then to have many decades wasted due to Serbia's destructive interference in neighboring countries' affairs.

As long as Serbia continues to hide war criminals and continues the policies it implemented under Milosevic there will not be any progress in the Balkans which only hurts the ordinary people who want to live in peace and improve their lives.

Firstly, let me start with when I mentioned that Im a Kosovar Albanian. To add to this, I am also a Muslim Albanian. So your comment of ---> "I am sure Albanians would be delighted to shed their Moslem image and launch a new public relations campaign of "Suffering Christians", but this clearly isn't something the democratic community of nations is ready to buy. Not this time around. The world has had enough of Albanian fishing stories." is actually quite insulting and really is the furthest thing from the truth. No one Kosovo is going around converting, nor is anyone [...]

Read the full comment denying what religion they are. Your comment obviously shows you do have a DISLIKE for muslims. I did not know that was a topic of conversation, as that only thing I brought up about religion is the fact that Albanians have a multi-religious culture, which is predominantly muslim, but include a good number of Christians. Going forward, you used a WIKI article to back your claims, and then you tell me that I do not know about my own culture and religion? That does not appear to be a very strong argument on your end. Actually, it seems to me that you want to focus your attention of "muslims" not having any cultural heritage to Kosovo, but you do not want to think about why they are have independence. I actually do not discredit any Serbian heritage in Kosovo, it exists and NOT ONCE have I denied it. But lets be realistic here. The Ottomans ruled kosovo for 500 years. There are just as many Mosques in Kosovo than Churches. Also, why is that the destruction of Orthodox churches are the only relevant thing that occurred in Kosovo? Destroying those churches were a terrible thing to do by the Albanians, and it was an aftermath of an angry people after a Bloody war. But, how come you do not mention the thousands of civilians that were killed? Last I checked churches can be rebuit... lives? What about the Mosque in Prishtina--> Xhamia e Llapit which was a mosque destroyed by Serbian forces, is a over 600 years old. Even more, how about the fact the Serbians burned down a Mosque from the 17th century IN BELGRADE--> Barajkli Mosque... even when the Serbian Orthodox Church urged its citizens to stop, they burned it to the ground and the crowds were on the news, screaming.. "kill Albanians". The facts remain that mosques were destroyed as well. As far as the number of Catholic Albanians, the article only accounts for the Kosovo Albanians. Though I do agree, just considering the Kosovar Albanians, the yes the muslims are much more prominent. But can you find one source with any reliable data on this? Facts remain that the world is still in the dark about the real number of Albanian muslim, catholics, orthodox etc. We all know muslim is the predominant one, but is it 70%, or 60% or less? No one knows, there are no official census for this, it is only an estimation. Actually, in Albania Proper, the govt is currently discussing if they shoud perform an actual religious census, but they are afraid to because they do not know if muslims or athiests will be dominant. So your numbers are skewed, as are everyones. But if you ask 100 Albanians what their religion is, the vast majority will say, "Albanian". It is a common saying among them. Oddly, you say I do not know anything about my own people and that Catholics play a small role in Kosovar history. Catholics were in kosovo LONG before othodox christians or muslims as our friend simple mind pointed out earlier. Their archaological evidence does exist, so if we put YOUR theory to works, well then the Catholics should move it and control Kosovo. You need to read less about the history and focus more on the fact that Kosovo would NEVER of been gained independence had the Milosovic regime had not literally handed them freedom. The same regime that the people of serbia elected is the reason why Kosovo is where is it today. Look at those reasons, not your slightly twisted historical/archaeological/religous facts.

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Curious:

Oddly, you don't appear to be familiar with the history or religion of YOUR OWN people.

Here's an excerpt from the latest Wikipedia article on religious composition of Kosovo (see below). As you can see, only about 3% of Albanian population - a statistical margin of error - is Catholic. This is an insignificant, negligible segment of the Albanian population of Kosovo. There is probably more atheists and agnostics in Kosovo than Catholics. I have nothing but respect for Catholics in Kosovo and I am sure they don't have it any [...]

Read the full comment easier than Serbs, but they are not a significant part of the Kosovo story.


[Open quote]

"Islam (mostly Sunni, with a Bektashi minority[62]) is the predominant religion in Kosovo, brought into the region with the Ottoman conquest in the 15th century and now nominally professed by most of the ethnic Albanians, by the Bosniak, Gorani, and Turkish communities, and by some of the Roma/Ashkali-"Egyptian" community. Islam, however, hasn't saturated the Kosovar society, which remains largely secular.[169] About three percent of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo remain Roman Catholic despite centuries of the Ottoman rule. The Serb population, estimated at 100,000 to 120,000 persons, is largely Serbian Orthodox. Kosovo is densely covered by numerous Serb Orthodox churches and monasteries.[170][171][172] Some 140 churches are reported to have been destroyed and partly looted for the black market in the 1999 to 2004 period, of these 30 in a single outburst of violence in March 2004.[173]"

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Source: Wikipedia article on Kosovo, which can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Religion


I am sure Albanians would be delighted to shed their Moslem image and launch a new public relations campaign of "Suffering Christians", but this clearly isn't something the democratic community of nations is ready to buy. Not this time around. The world has had enough of Albanian fishing stories.

Btw that long passage that was just written after simple mind is NOT from deda.. It's from me. I meant to reference it TO deda

Thank you simple mind... Wish I had saw your post before writing my long post. Could not have sAid it any better.

Just reading through entire passage shows that you are obviously one sided and know verry little of Albanians or Kovoso. Catholic Albanians are news to you? Seriously? I AM an Albanian from Kosovo and my very neighbors were Catholic. I have never once come across any Serbian who was NOT aware of Catholic Albanians. Furthermore, a large number of Orthodox Albanians exist. So, only the Serbians were persecuted over the last 100 years? Are you out of your mind? EVERY culter in the Balkans have been persecuted, all have done bad things to eachother. But when you look at a [...]

Read the full comment time of "modernization", in the time of conflict when the KLA and Serbia went at it, the Serb regime were the ones who implemented WW1/WW2 genonocidal policies. Im sorry, but you say... "albanians blew up yugoslavia"? Correct me if I am wrong.. but didnt Serbia fight multiple wars with former Yugoslav nations way before the Kosovo conflict? Also, was it the Albanians who entered Belgrade and killed civilians? Or the Croatians? Maybe the Slovenes or Bosians? Oh wait, these wars were never fought in Serbia proper. And lets face it.. even me as a Kosovo Albanian is not dumb enough to believe the KLA was strong enough to defeat the Serbian military without NATO assistance. It was only after the war became a pit of death and destruction that forced NATO's hands. Yet, you deny this and talk only about history. So serbia entered with 15 million people in 1900? Ok, lets leave aside the fact that none of those census numbers can even be trusted, why dont you look up the fact the serbia has the LOWEST birth rate in the balkans... actually in Europe. Could that NOT POSSIBLY play into why the Serbian population has decreased over the last century. I find it hard to believe that a country such as Serbia, who has been one of the stronger coutries in the balkans over the last century.. both militarily and economically... were being slaughtered in the millions by their neighbors. You say you have no interest in religion, and you compare Albanian muslims to that of Lebanon. A country a thousand miles away and with a completely different sent of beliefs. You also obviously put Albanian muslims in the category of muslims alone..and that catholics would never stand for this. I do not know if you realize, BUT ALL Albanians were Christian at one time... "moslims" didnt just appear. Conversion played a huge factor, but Muslim life has NEVER dominated Albanian life. If there even is a thing a "osama mosque".. which I have never heard of.. its obviously a small fundamentalist group that has NO ties to current govt of Kosovo. And you mention archaology? Does archaolgy say that a country who slaughers masses of its populas retains the right to govern those people? No way! You have proven with your last messaage that you know VERY little of your Albanian neighbors. My purpose to show both cultures have relevence in Kosovo, and why current day events should be the only reasons to decide on independence. Your reasons are based on archaology and personal feelings. Oh, btw.. when Serbia came into Gjokova, they kicked the Catholic neighbors out of their home and used it as a command base. That same family stayed with Muslim Albanians. Albanians of different religions have been living together for a very long time, and their differences are only religious, their culture and friendly relations have always remained the same.

DEDA CVETKO,

by branding Albanians as Muslims you are already making the first mistake. It tells me clearly that you do not know anything about Albanians at all. Well I am one of those 30% of Albanian Catholics today. That’s right 30%!

I experienced it myself in Kosova that during the Serbian rule of 1990ies, that Serbian state has been enabling, in fact even subsidizing a buildup of the Muslim stream in Kosova in order to have a justification in the eyes of the world that it is in fact “rooting out” [...]

Read the full comment the Muslim extremist (and together with that also most of the Albanian population) as part of the systematic cleansing of Kosova in accordance with the well thought and in detail planed Memorandum of the Serbian Academy of Sciences (MSAS) for cleansing and integration of “Serbian Lands” wherever they are. The Balkan butcher Milosevic did nothing but carried out in practice the MSAS during his “holy wars”! In my village and in the neighboring village we wanted to build 2 catholic churches but the permission was denied by the city mayor (a Serb appointed under the rule of Milosevic) while at the same time he permitted building of 2 other mosques not far from the place where the churches were supposed to be built.

Coming back to the archeological facts. I visited the Monastery of Decani (you claim to be church of the Serb origin!). So why do you think that monastery survived for so many centuries when in that part of Kosova were living Albanians for eons and who build it in the first place? Well if you dig deep into the foundation of that monastery you will clearly find archeological facts of catholic origin predating the Serbian age of 13 century. There are Illyrian catholic traces in those foundations dating back even the time before Serbs started to move to the Balkan. In fact the foundations were built by the original population Illyrians (predecessors of Albanians). The monastery was built by the Serbs on the foundations of the Albanian church, just the same as Turks did with Sofia’s church in Constantinople (today’s Istanbul). And that is the reason as to why Albanians preserved the monastery of Decani.

Claiming (as some Serb historians) that Albanian were brought by the Turks during their quests is simply nationalistic and has nothing to do with facts. In fact it was Albanian lands who fell last under the ottoman rule in 1508. It was the Albanian prince Gergj (Albanian name for George) Kastrioti Skanderbeg (1406-1468) who fought bravely against the Turks in the name of Christendom, and for that war was named by that Pope as “Athlete Cristi”!

Well I say forget history and come back to today. Kosova is independent and Serbia can lament and weep all it wants…

FairPlay:

Serge Bramerz, the chief prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal CERTIFIED in his latest report to the United Nations' security council that Serbia was fully cooperating with the Tribunal and that neither the State of Serbia nor its agents or bodies were involved in attempts to hide Ratko Mladic.

So there.

Argument over. End of the story.

CURIOUS:

Actually, I am not interested in History per se. History is written by the rulers or victors, which means it will always be inaccurate, biased or downright fraudulent. I am also not much interested in Religion (as a matter of fact, I have a BIG problem with Serbian Orthodox Church and its current leadership). I am a Serbian by tradition and ancestry, not via liturgical dogma or historical textbooks.


I am more interested in ARCHEOLOGY. Archeology does not lie. Never did. You can't squeeze archeological dig into political propaganda. [...]

Read the full comment It will not fit, no matter how hard you try.


You say: "Keep in mind that up until the 1800’s, Albanians were still predominantly Catholic, and still a large % of Catholics exist"

This is news to me. And I am pretty sure this is news to about 95+ percent Albanians in Kosovo who consider themselves devout Muslims. Certainly, any sizable Catholic-Albanian population in Kosovo would never accept something called "Osama Bin Ladin Mosque" to be built in their midst. It would offend the very core of their Christian values and beliefs.


If the Albanians in Kosovo all of a sudden and out of sheer love for Madeline Albright and her brand of Catholicism decided to convert to Catholicism, that's all fine and dandy. But I assure you that there were precious few Catholic Albanians in Kosovo in the middle ages beyond the brief Skenderbeg episode (I can't, for the life of me, visualize Suleiman the Magnificent marching on Vienna with a massive pro-Pope population stirring trouble behind his back).


Even today Albanians are more likely to survive as Catholics in Serbia proper than in Muslim-dominated areas of Kosovo. The religious zealotry of Kosovo environment does not discriminate between Orthodox and Catholic Christians. It's just that pro-western press will not cover any incidents of Moslem-on-Catholic sectarian violence. How fond are Muslims of Catholics in Kosovo? Check Lebanon. Check Philippines. Check Nigeria. Do you see Catholic Christians being slaughtered in these countries? If so, I rest my case.

You seem to be arguing in favor of the pragmatic "let the local population coexist" approach to Kosovo, which no reasonable person could question or reject. But then, in the same breath, you claim that Yugoslavia had fatally failed as a concept. The problem is, the concept of peaceful and pragmatic coexistence of nations and ethnicities in Kosovo and across Balkans was and still is all about Yugoslavia. You cannot have peaceful resolution of Kosovo conflict without some sort of resurrection of Yugoslavia.

Why, then, did Albanians need to blow up Yugoslavia in the first place? And how many more Yugoslavias will Serbs need to endure and pay in blood and suffering before yet another failed attempt at "shared history" ends with ethnic war of attrition and bloodshed?

My nation entered the 20th Century with roughly 15 million people scattered across the Balkans. We closed the century with about 8 million -- the net loss of about 7 million souls (unborn generations of Serbs notwithstanding). The rest were assimilated, killed, forcibly evicted, exiled, ethnically cleansed or converted at gunpoint.

For my people, the net outcome of our "shared" and "tolerant" history with other peoples and ethnicities (who didn't want to share anything with us) is a cataclysm of galactic proportions; something that under no circumstances should be allowed to happen again.

Another Yugoslavia, and the Serbs will forever join Inkas, Mayas and Khazars as extinct people,

The Serbians committed genocide in Bosnia-Herzegovina and to this very day they have not apologized for their crimes. On top of that they are still harboring Ratko Mladic the man (calling him that is a compliment he does not deserve) most responsible for the horrendous genocide committed in Bosnia.

As long as Serbia and its politicians continue Milosevic's failed ultra-nationalist fascist policies they will continue to hit their heads against the wall. If Serbia truly transforms itself, the way Germany did post WWII, then there is a lot of potential for that country and its citizens [...]

Read the full comment and it would also usher in a new era of peace and stability in the Balkans. If they continue with their fascist policies (cleverly concealed from the West by emmy-nominated actors Tadic, Jeremic, and co.) they will only continue to increase tensions and distrust in the region hurting themselves in the process.

It is up to Serbia and its people to chose the way forward either they can enter a peaceful prosperous and productive future along with their neighbors or they can continue the fascist policies of the 90s which take them on a dead-end road towards political and economic instability and international isolation.

There will be no legal participation of any type of "kosovo state" or mono-ethic Albanian experiment until, and only until there's a final agreement on Kosovo between Serbia and its Albanian citizens. Everything else is waste of your time and your spin. Serbia can turn off the electric power to Kosovo Albanians, can block many other things, but Serbia wants the West to bring Albanians back to reality. The reality is that Serbia will not allow creation of Big Albania, or two albanian states next to each other. That film is impossible in the Balkans.

Deda & Simple Mind: Before I get to my views of Kosovo's history. Let’s keep in mind that history is always biased, and will only look to prove the points of each nationalist thinking agenda, and we call all certainly agree that both Albanians and Serbians are nationalistic. 1st of all, there is no need to bring in the history of Kosove into current day topics. All of “this was my land, their land” BS is hundreds and in some cases thousands of years old. The fact remain that the reason Kosovo gained independence is because of 1998-99 conflict which [...]

Read the full comment obviously was many decades of mounting hostilities between the 2 peoples. No one’s claim on historical integrity gives someone one the right to rule the land. Rome rules the Balkans for hundreds of years and left more of a mark on history there than any of the current nations there (besides Greece)… but does that give Italy the right to say its theirs? No, it belongs to the people who live there and is governed by the legislations the people choose. If that government abuses its powers and mistreats its populous, then the people have the right to vote for new leaders and a new vision. At least, in a free world this will work. Actually, if you look at the history of the Balkans, even more recent history when Byzantium, Bulgaria, Serbia, the Ottomans all ruled, what free choice was there? The strong invaded and conquered, just like the Balkan wars in the early 19 hundreds, and just like axis countries did in WW2. One could argue that Yugoslavia was founded on these basis, but guess what… it did not work in the long run. Anyway, if we are going to talk about history, then I will have to remind Deda of the many misconceptions he/she has written. The most prominent historical evidence of Serbian history in Kosovo (and there is plenty), is the religion aspect. The orthodox churches, relics and so on. Religion has dominated Serbian culture, which is fine.. there is nothing wrong with that as it is their cultural heritage. But when you say.. “where is the Albanian history”…. Well you are fool to think there is none. Keep in mind that up until the 1800’s, Albanians were still predominantly Catholic, and still a large % of Catholics exist. Are there not an abundance of Catholic history in Kosovo? Sure, not as much as Orthodox, but the history is there. If you study history, you will also learn that cultures adapted and learned from each other. Look at MECCA for example which has changes religions positions a number of times in history. Many (not all) of the Orthodox churches were once Catholic churches as well. And you say, there was no mention of Albanians in history? I won’t even get into the “Illyrian” debate, that’s too far back in history… the Albanians themselves are referenced in history dating back pre 1000 AD… and that is IF you do not believe they are descendents of the Illyrians. So, let’s just touch on a couple of brief historical points. A) Everyone knows of the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, yet no one references Battle of Kosovo 2 in 1448. Not to get into the details, but this is when Hungarian King Hunyadi joined forces with Gjerg Kastrioti (Skanderbeg) to lead the fights against the Ottoman Empire. History debates that if the Hungarian-Albanian alliance had won, the very idea of an Ottoman Balkans may never of existed. Why did they not win? Serbia signed a treaty with the Ottmans between Durad Brankovic and the Sultan. The Serbians agreed to prevent Skenderbeg from joining the war and intercepted them. But, did this not happen in history? Cleary based off your belief it could not of because Albanians did not exist.
B) June 1878, Berlin Congress Divides Albanian areas between Serbia, Montenegro, and the Ottomans. Albanians & Serbia were given the northern part of Kosovo. Same period, Serbia erected a policy to show powerlessness of the western countries, in which they expelled atleast 50,000 Albanians from Kosovo to turkey. (Look it up, ethnic population swaps were quite common back in the day). This is getting to long of story from here, but the point of my writing is NOT to discount Serbian history in Kosovo, it exists. But to be foolish and think Albanians are not part of Kosovo history is exactly the reason why Serbia finds themselves without a Kosovo today. They need to accept the idea of a brotherly relations, as to Albanians and all of the other cultures there. Do not look at history as a basis of why Kosovo should be Serbian, the Kosovo borders and ethnographic culture has been changing for hundreds of years now. Look at the current day issues and see for yourself why there was independence.

Branku Shqipski:

Yes, of course there are Mosques across Kosovo (NONE - not one! - predating the 14th century Turkish occupation, by the way). And, guess what -- they are STILL there, unharmed and untouched -- not EVEN Milosevic tried to destroy them. For centuries, Serbs tended to the mosques as if they were their own.

Now, let's compare the fate of Kosovo Mosques with the fate of Serbian Orthodox Temples in Kosovo: in only ONE DAY six years ago, Albanian mob destroyed, vandalized or otherwise desecrated close to 200 places of [...]

Read the full comment worship, most ancient, some on UNESCO'S list of protected historical sites. In a SINGLE DAY, the Albanians attempted to destroy every single trace of 1,400 years of Serbian presence in Kosovo, while the NATO "protection" force was busy doing nothing. What kind of "shared" history is that, my friend? Wouldn't you want to preserve some of our "shared" history for posterity?

Yes, there is a shared history. But, here, the "shared" means only one thing: one side was always the oppressor, the other side was always the oppressed. At no point did Albanian population attempt to integrate into the multinational, multicultural nation that was Yugoslavia . All they wanted was Albanian-only mini-caliphate carved out of Serbia, and this is what Madeline Albright gave them in 1999.

Albanians never met Serbian enemy they couldn't love. Throughout their history in the Balkans, Albanians collaborated with whomever came along, be it Italian fascists, Croatian nazis, Ottomans, Stalin's communists or Madeline Albright's new-world-orderians. If the occupying force was anti-Serbian, Albanians loved it passionately and with fierce abandon.

What kind of "shared history" is that, my friend?

More importantly, if you loved our "shared" history so much, why did you help destroy Yugoslavia?

To turn a new leaf in our "shared" history, may I recommend that Kosovo Albanians once and for all abandon their pipe dream of "independent" Kosovo and espouse Serbia as their one and only mother country. The sooner, the better: yesterday would not be a day too soon.

First of all Slovenia is breaking international law by not abding to Resolution 1244 instead of plainly saying that Kosovo is Serbian and always will be. If it was so important to have Serbia attend such a meeting, simply invite "Kosovo/UNMIK". It is not a country and never will be. A country's land cannot simply be hijacked by pirates. If Slovenia and Croatia and all other participating countries believe so, then it will be no time before they are also hijacked by terrorists such as those Albanian occupiers. The land speak's for itself. There are hundreds of ancient churches, monuments [...]

Read the full comment and monasteries dating back hundreds of years, all Serbian, all over Kosovo. The only things that are Albanian today are the hostile occupiers who have no history there whatsoever. Just more lies from the squatters who are better off playing a game of SIM World rather than anything in the real world.

well done on the nationalistic rants from Deda and Simple Minds - why can't you accept that there is such a thing as a SHARED history - yes Kosovo/Kosova has been at times a seat of Serbian Orthodox culture AND the home of Albanian Gheg culture... you guys sound like youve never travelled the balkans - go to Ohrid, Crna Gora- go to Gjirokaster there ARE mosques a stones throw from churches - get over it - yes the Ottomans did influence populations , so what? that's history - and don't forget that in the battle of Kosovo Polje Albanian [...]

Read the full comment Christians and Serbs fought alongside each other against the Ottomans - there is no one Serbian / Albanian glorious history - it's a simplifying fantasy.. however, to most reasonable people Serbia's political rulers forfeited their control of Kosovo and betrayed Kosovo Serbs by their treatment of their neighbouring Albanian cousins (yes - cousins!) unfortunately Slobodan Milosevic is partly responsible for the unjust UN bombing of civilians in Serbia AND the revenge destruction of precious orthodox churches in Kosovo

SIMPLE MIND SAYS:

"Kosova was and is land of Kosovars (Albanians). Serbia just forcefully ruled that land twice in the history (in 13 and 20th century) but doesn’t make that land Serbian" [end quote]

Kosovo a land of Albanians?

Well, at least we now know why Kosovo Albanians tried - and are still trying - to ethnically cleanse the territory and expel all non-Albanians from Kosovo. To make it "the land of Albanians".

An interesting little theory, this "Kosovo is Albanian" ruse. It would [...]

Read the full comment be nice to find out why, if the Kosova (sic) is the land of Albanians, why there are no Albanian medieval monuments to be found anywhere in Kosovo, no Albanian medieval cemeteries anywhere, no Albanian fortresses, no medieval Albanian "Christian" (or any other) temples, or for that matter, no Albanian ANYTHING in Kosovo. The first significant Albanian presence in the KosovO goes back to the mid-19th Century, when the ruling Ottoman empire started resettling mountain Albanians in order to dilute and diminish the Christian majority population in the area. Compare it to the Serbian presence: everywhere you dig a hole in Kosovo, you find a Serbian relic, a monument, an orthodox temple. Kosovo may not have always been Serbian (it was Bulgarian and Byzantine for a short while), but it was NEVER Albanian.

The whole Albanian "presence" in Kosovo is a flat-out 19th Century Albanian propaganda. An inane concoction not even those who created it believe in. The only time Kosovo was "Albanian" was when Mussolini's troops occupied Kosovo in 1941.

Kosov"A" can think that it is independent all it want. It isn't, it wasn't and it will never be. If you do not believe me, please read United Nations' resolution 1244 and be educated. The theft and the robbery never conveyed any legal rights. The Albanian separatists can steal all they want, but the fruits of theft will be short-lived: you can live in this house until the rightful owner returns, but you will NEVER own the title or the deed.

sadf:

Serbian Solders crossed the border to Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova etc and tried to ethnically clean the territories attacked. No Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian or Kosovar soldier crossed the border to Serbia and attacked it!!! So who is the aggressor here?

DEDA CVETKO

Kosova was and is land of Kosovars (Albanians). Serbia just forcefully ruled that land twice in the history (in 13 and 20th century) but doesn’t make that land Serbian. Since February 17, 2008 Kosova is independent, whether you like it or not! And it will [...]

Read the full comment remain like that. Serbia can shoot itself in the foot by staying away from such forums and isolate itself but none of it will change the fact that Kosova is and will stay independent

Serbia is not making trouble and Serbia did not attack any of its neighbors. Those neighbors destroyed Yugoslavia which Serbia supported and that is why everyone blames Serbia for everything because they do not want to admit their guilt. Its always easier to blame others than to blame yourself.

The Brdo "konference" is a sly attempt, a transparent ploy to force Serbia to recognize illegal dismemberment of its nation. Allow me to remind that the UN Security Council resolution 1244 GUARANTEES Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo. This resolution has never been rescinded or revoked.

"Independent" Kosovo simply does not exist, and will continue to not exist. As such, it should NEVER have been invited to the conference.

Again Serbia is making trouble. First they attacked nearly destroyed almost every neighbour of theirs (Starting in Slovenia and ending in Kosova) in the last decade and now they again want to make trouble? How typical for Serbia! My advice to the organisers: Invite the Serbs, and if they do not want to attend so be it! If they want to isolate themselves then so be it!

Again Serbia is making trouble. First they attacked nearly destroyed almost every neighbour of theirs (Starting in Slovenia and ending in Bosnia) in the last decade and now they again want to make trouble? How typical for Serbia! My advice to the organisers: Invite the Serbs, and if they do not want to attend so be it! If they want to isolate themselves the so be it!