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Serbian president may skip Croatian president’s inauguration

Ivo Josipovic, Croatia's president-elect, whose inauguration is scheduled for February 18 2010.

Serbian president Boris Tadic says that he will attend the inauguration of his Croatian counterpart Ivo Josipovic only if Kosovo president Fatmir Sejdiu is not present.
 
Tadic said that taking part in an event also attended by Sejdiu would amount to indirectly recognising Kosovo as independent, Serbian news agency Tanjug said.
 
"I am ready to go there under the condition that the issue of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity is not brought into question," Tadic said on January 14 2010.
 
The inauguration of Josipovic is scheduled for February 18 2010. He will succeed Stjepan Mesic, who has been prominent in backing Kosovo’s independence, to the annoyance of Belgrade.
 
Mesic visited Kosovo, and Croatia backed Kosovo in International Court of Justice hearings in December 2009 on the question of the legality of the February 2008 unilateral declaration of independence in Pristina.
 
Serbia and Croatia are locked in mutual international court allegations of genocide during the wars that followed the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, although Josipovic – who was involved at the outset when Croatia filed court action in 1999 against Serbia, and whose role as head of state is largely ceremonial – has indicated that he would prefer a political deal to resolve this bilateral issue.
 

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Anonymous Valeri Tue, Jan 19 2010 20:21 CET

BTW Epami,
on the map, note how the Serbs only had an enclave in Kosovo - basically nothing changed for 100 years. If anything, they have changed the balance in what is today southern Serbia, from majority Albanian to majority Serb - mostly by force.
Serbia was very tiny in 1912 and if they are not careful they may end up their original ethnic size, which is about half of what Serbia is today.

Anonymous Valeri Tue, Jan 19 2010 20:14 CET

Lol, Epami,
nothing gets attention like a good old swastika, and that's way I always suspect and unloved childhood behind every such...

Far reach for the Serbs to justify their "land without people" politics.

AnonymousEpaminondasTue, Jan 19 2010 18:45 CET

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Anonymous Epaminondas Tue, Jan 19 2010 11:09 CET

Valeri -

Thanks; a good and accurate map. I can confirm that it is indeed British, and that the Germans issued a very similar detailed map in 1916 (Lander und Volkerkart Europas, author Dr Dietrich Schafer) using completely different source data.

Both British and German maps entirely agree as to the ethnic distribution in the Balkans at that time (note that Macedonia is entirely Slav except for the coastal strip, for example.)

It was unusual for Britain and Germany to agree about anything in 1916, as they were [...]

Read the full comment at war with each other. So the fact that on this occasion they did, is doubly significant, and tends to reinforce the belief that both maps were telling the truth at the time.

(I await Sweetie-Pie telling us both that it was all a dastardly Albanian plot to do down the Serbs !)

Anonymous Valeri Tue, Jan 19 2010 02:44 CET

Whatever...

AnonymousPeggyTue, Jan 19 2010 02:41 CET

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Anonymous Peggy Tue, Jan 19 2010 00:47 CET


Valeri

Mon, Jan 18 2010 21:33 CET

Inappropriate comment?
Peggy:

"What would you do if another group with different religion because a majority in a part of your country, decided to secede based on being the majority there and said see you later, this is all ours now?"

Sweetie, I've been trying to explain to you for sometime now. Serbia is dealing with severe digestion problem - that's all.

She started incorporating lands populated with [...]

Read the full comment peoples other than Serbs, 100 year a go, like Kosovo and Makedonia and others. After WWI the process continued, as the new Yugoslavia became in effect Belgrade's domain. This here is the aftermath

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First of all I will thank you not to call me sweetie as I am not your sweetie.
Second, a 100 years ago Kosovo was inhabited primarily by Serbs so you cannot say that Serbia took Kosovo from anyone. Serbia has had Kosovo for centuries and have been the majority there until around WW2 when Tito refused the Serbs return to Kosovo but encouraged Albanian migration. That is when the demographic changed there. I am surprised you don't know that.

Again, you did not answer my question about what would you do if a part of Bulgaria became inhabited by another ethnic group who became a majority and wanted to secede. Telling me that Kosovo was always inhabited by majority Albanians is not answering my question especially when that is not true.

Again, pleae don't use terms like sweetie or love when addressing me. It is very condescending when used and you don't know that person.

Would you like me to address you that way? I bet not.

Anonymous Valeri Mon, Jan 18 2010 21:33 CET

Peggy:

"What would you do if another group with different religion because a majority in a part of your country, decided to secede based on being the majority there and said see you later, this is all ours now?"

Sweetie, I've been trying to explain to you for sometime now. Serbia is dealing with severe digestion problem - that's all.

She started incorporating lands populated with peoples other than Serbs, 100 year a go, like Kosovo and Makedonia and others. After WWI the process continued, as the new [...]

Read the full comment Yugoslavia became in effect Belgrade's domain. This here is the aftermath.

BG has always been interested in lands, inhabited by folks we saw as Bulgarians only. This is why we don't have this problem. That is not to say that we won't have it forever. If we, as a nation, don't manage to create a more tolerant society, and succumb to some demagogic politicians, Serbian style, we too may get our country torn a part. It's never too late to screw up.

What do we do then?

Certainly not starting a war...

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Anonymous Peggy Mon, Jan 18 2010 03:18 CET

To repeat your own wishes here. Stop diverting from subject No.1.

You are quick to point out that diverting from topic is not on so why do you do it? Are you exempted from this?

Anonymous Peggy Mon, Jan 18 2010 03:16 CET

1, I hope you realise that your youtube videos are wated.
I would not bother clickin on that link and I seriously doubt others would either.

There is so much stuff on youtube on this from all sides.
I could bombard you with heaps of youtube videos showing how barbaric Albanians, Croats and Bosnian Muslims werea as well.
What, you think you have a monopoly on "informative" videos?

Do you ever look up anything else besides youtube?

Anonymous Peggy Mon, Jan 18 2010 03:11 CET

1, you seem to be very annoyed at not being able to debate successfully so you want your opposition to be banned.

Your lot loves to divert from topic all the time and you don't compalin. Are you complaining about Epamindonas, Koinos or Argon?
They are masters of diversion, but it's ok by you because they tow the Albanian line.

You are not running anyone off this site because your arguments are inadequte. Stiff.

Anonymous benzo Mon, Jan 18 2010 03:09 CET

@Koinos Nous:

-Well, grateful (genuinely) to Ludvig for putting the Serbian side of the argument very clearly and comprehensibly.


THEN maybe I will simplify things for you a bit !

a. ludvig is better informed on the balkans in his pinky finger then 3 of you !

b. "argument" are you arguing ? this a "comments" page you must mean refute whats been written...ah ok.

easier for you now ??????????

Anonymous 1 Mon, Jan 18 2010 02:53 CET

Dear SofiaEcho,

Why do you tolerate really bizzare offtopics from the likes of lodovic and his other personality?

The topic seams to be Serb president boycots Croatioan inauguration.
Those two are debating about the price of rice in China...

JUst becouse their attention stlyle is really off and smelly, your standards should not move.

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Anonymous Peggy Mon, Jan 18 2010 01:28 CET

Koinos and Valeri, you do like to put your own spin on things and make it look like the truth.

For a start, Serbian does not hate anyone. How do you get this conclusion? There are so many ethnic groups living in Serbia and mixing with Serbs successfully. No problems reported with anyone there but you still say that Serbs hate everyone.

For a nation of haters and being the ONLY country in the region with so many different ethnic groups living there in peace I can see how you can conclude [...]

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Valeri you state that your "incredible evolved" country would never go to war for religious purposes. Wonderful. What would you do if another group with different religion because a majority in a part of your country, decided to secede based on being the majority there and said see you later, this is all ours now? Would your government allow this because they might look like they are fighting a religious war? Would you gladly hand over so much of your territory because you don't want to enter a war which resemble a religious war?

Yes, there has been a lot of bad blood between all of the people on the Balkan Peninsula and it's still going on but you cannot chalk all that up to being Serbia's fault. Nobody and I mean nobody would want their territory taken away or their people being ruled by the other ethnic group because they became more successful breeders.

Valeri, you are just lucky that your country does not have the same problems that Yugoslavia had. Bulgaria would've reacted the same way.

How about Romania? Are you in favour of Transylvania breaking away because people there are of different ethnic or religious group to the rest of Romania? Would you tell the Romanians to chill and let it go?

How about Croata? If all the refugees came back the Serbs would be a majority again in Krajina? Are you in favour of that part splitting away?

Republic of Serpska is also majority one ethnic or religious group. Are you in favour of that going as well?

These are all legitimate questions.
Don't by a hypocrite. What's good for one is good for all.

Anonymous Valeri Mon, Jan 18 2010 00:25 CET

Lol Ludvig;)))

you forgot Rawanda, Somalia, Aids, violence against women, slavery and brest cancer;))
dude, you need to focus. We are talking how Serbia is getting smart and how she's gonna turn her "war heros" in, for bacically money and help - this is what the EU membership means to them.
So from David, Serbia will resemble Juda actually, and a good thing too.
Those were no heros, but criminal killers.
Just like Serbia is no David, but little Balkan entity who hasn't gotten the memo on how [...]

Read the full comment small and unheroic she is, and on the fact that this isn't 19 century anymore .... What blood flows in your vains... Are you kidding Peggy?

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sun, Jan 17 2010 23:38 CET

Valeri:

>>Btw Serbia is finally getting some leadership which understands that the highest form of patriotism is recognizing the country's true interests and acting on them - you know, American style;)))

you'll see, they will hunt down all of your "national heros" and turn them in to Goliath, like good boys and girls;)))<<

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Your problem is that you look at the things, as they APPEAR TO YOU AT THE MOMENT, and you jump right away to conclusions.
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I do not know if you remember seeing president Bush landing as a copilot of F14 on airplane carrier. With a big "VICTORY" banner hung in the background, he declared; "We won!" This was in 2003! Won, what? About 700,000 to one million dead Iraqis and about two to three million displaced Iraqis (1.4 million escaped to Jordan, only). Who won? Nobody did. The same goes for Serbia, NATO and Kosovo occupation. You have to be out of mind to think that Albanians won, or NATO won, not to speak about Serbian "victory"... Only insane people could brag about military victory achieved with poisonous DU & perilen, civilian flesh-ripping cluster bombs in Aleksinac, cutting electricity and water to 2 million Belgrade inhabitants, or burnt ancient churches in Kosovo, even today enclaves encircled with razor barb wires...

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sun, Jan 17 2010 22:54 CET

I'd like to think, that I am making a case not only for the Serbs, but any little man, in general (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist..). You cannot put down-insult people at will, for no reason, occupy their land just because you are so powerful, tell them to bow to the mighty and strong ones. Relying on your military power, first and foremost, that would be an utterly stupid approach, IMHO.
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You must have heard about the most famous equation in the World

E=mc^2

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Read the full comment /> Everybody has heard about it, but only a few of the casual visitors know what it actually means.

This is the formula that produced the atom bomb. It states that energy and mass are interchangeable.

On the left side is energy (in joules, J, i.e. work in kg m^2/(sec)^2.
On the right side, you have mass (kg) multiplied with speed of light (in vacuum 300,000 km/s^2) square, which is a huge number!
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Here is the kicker: You take one kg of any material, say rock and according to this Einstein's equation, that say piece of stupid rock has an unthinkable amount of energy of 300 millions x 300 millions joules in itself.... That would be roughly enough electric energy to lite up an average city for a few days... 100Watt bulb uses 100 joules per sec... if you eat one piece of chocolate, that would give you about 100 calories of thermal energy that would give you ability to do about 400 joules work...
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The above unbelievable phenomenon was discovered by Einstein in 1905, confirmed by experiments in 1932 and then practically demonstrated in 1945 with chain reaction activated at 600 ft above Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Imagine - one piece of stupid, simple rock has in itself a mind bugling amount of energy, that could be released, set free any minute! Also the reversed process is possible - An enormous amount of added energy could produce a small increase in mass of the bound system. ENORMOUSLY BIG BECOMES TINY SMALL AND LITTLE SMALL THING INSTANTLY BECOMES A FORCE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTION! Imagine! It is another story why a radioactive, super heavy U238/235 material was chosen for the first A-bomb, theoretically speaking, an everyday rock in front of your house could have been used.
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Whether you believe in God or not, you have to be speechless when you read something like this. How in the World could be such an unthinkable large amount of energy be STORED in a piece of any material? Who is responsible for it?
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But my point is completely different one. That is my point of a LITTLE MAN. Never underestimate a single human being. Just like that piece of cold rock, that has in itself a mind bugling (stored) sub-atomic energy, in the same way one single individual (I would say any of us, under right circumstances) is capable of mind bugling effect-things.
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It is a scientific fact that it could happen, that one single butterfly flops its wings say in Plovdiv, Bulgaria and due to inexplicable wave resonance it causes a hurricane again - of Biblical proportions in the Gulf of Mexico. One day Haiti people were O.K., the next day about 30% of them lost their homes, with 300,000 dead. When you are on top of the world, you think - nothing could happen to you. We in the US got struck by the worst recession since the Great Depression in 19390s! Just like that. It doesn't take much orf the "bad luck" to be struck by an asteroid, another earthquake like the one CA experienced at the turn of the last century, by another Curacao tsunami, by a terrorist "dirty bomb", by 10 ft rising ocean level in climate warming scenario which would eliminate my city (NYC) etc etc... If God forbide, any of those scenarios gets us, I would like to be able to survive and pledge for help - saying - Please help us in the US, we helped everybody, we did not occupy and settled any foreign country, since the founding fathers, we stood out for human freedom, not the military occupation.

Anonymous Valeri Sun, Jan 17 2010 22:14 CET

Btw Serbia is finally getting some leadership which understands that the highest form of patriotism is recognizing the country's true interests and acting on them - you know, American style;)))

you'll see, they will hunt down all of your "national heros" and turn them in to Goliath, like good boys and girls;)))

Anonymous Valeri Sun, Jan 17 2010 21:54 CET

Lol Ludvig;)))

keep it up brother!
I love having you and Peggy on here. Koinos, this kind of paranoic conspiratorial and ethnic based thinking, we in BG had to deal with for decades - even for simle things like infrastructure projects....
Everything with our Serb friends has to do with these curious notions of epic size biblical drama, all revolving around, Serbia, of course...

Frankly, Ludvig, the only true ignorant idiots out are folks willing to kill, or die, over religion, and when it comes to countries, the [...]

Read the full comment dumbest ones are the ones NOT acting from their I-T-E-R-E-S-T-S;)))

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Anonymous Koinos Nous Sun, Jan 17 2010 21:33 CET

Well, grateful (genuinely) to Ludvig for putting the Serbian side of the argument very clearly and comprehensibly.

I genuinely hope that everybody finds this helpful.

The main problem (from a Northern European viewpoint) seems to be that Serbia has an unfortunate habit of falling-out (to blood-feud level) with all its neighbours.

For example:

- Kosovo: Serbia hates the Albanians (ok, it may have a point !)

- Croatia: Serbia hates the Croats (age-old hatreds, but why now ?)
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- Bulgarians: Serbia hates the Bulgarians for reasons lost in the mists of time, but no recent reason

- Hungarians: rather as for the Bulgarians, but mainly concerning the disputed Voivodina region

- Macedonians: because they aren't Jugoslav any longer

- Romanians: various bilateral quarrels, largely concerning the Iron Gates dam on the Danube

....I'd better not go on, but doesn't Serbia like ANYBODY who lives close to it ?

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sun, Jan 17 2010 21:10 CET

And now the Serbian side of the case:
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Maybe I should prefice it by saying, that I may not be the best Serbian representative, for having live most of my life abroad, constantly moving around, so that I could easily put in the passport as my nationality: a Gypsy.
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When all Nobel Prize winners were polled, they voted as #1,#2 scientists in history Einstein and Newton (in that order). When Eistein got his Nobel price (I think it [...]

Read the full comment was in 1922), he gave all the money to his ex-wife Mileva Maric. Many of us think that she was the matematician of the two (wrote the GTR in tensor analysis form). I am passing by the U. Physics building, that has "Mihailo Pupin" name. The newest DARPA (the team of about 150 MD's and postdoctoral Ph.Ds, that invented Internet, that does only thing that will be here in 30 years from now) starwar research is largely based on Nikola Tesla genius sketches-ideas. ... In other words, the Serbs are megalomanic, as someone put it in the discussion her. But, as I am pointing out, THEY HAVE A REASON TO BE. Even the way, how they held during the bombing, shows that. The US marched into Panama by noon and into Iraq after 100 hours of fight. With little Serbia, after 2 months of day and night bombing (have to add with large diplomatic help from Russia), the US had to sign a PEACE AGREEMENT in Kumanovo, where sovereignty of Serbia over Kosovo was preserved!
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Why did the entire Serbia resist-fight so strongly in the fight over Kosovo? Why someone like me, who will never be living in Serbia (the US is my country) is defending the Serbia's Kosovo stand so stubbornly? It has to do with basic fiber of human being - FREEDOM. Freedom from military occupation, freedom to live your life with dignity, free as a bird, free from any foreign dictates/orders. The Serbs would say: "Kosovo je uzeto na kurvinski nachin" (Kosovo was taken in a prostitute/rotten manner) "It's over, for ever... Serbs, live with it!" That was the massage of the representative of Bush administration. They were indirectly protecting their stand for prolonging occupation of Iraq, Kosovo was a sister case for them. (I am reminding you here that those 213 Congressmen that voted against the bombing of SCG were all my Republicans. BTW, G.W.Bush at the time was in that group). That is the Serbian side case, the fight of David vs. Goliath, where Goliath is taking away David's basic dignity, the sacred land, where the Serbian culture has been developing for the last 1000 years. America is only 200+ years old country. It is very difficult for an average American to understand how the Serbs all over the world were feeling watching their 700, 800 years old churches burn in Kosovo; burning continued by Albanians in 2004 under the watch o0f their NATO protectors! One ignorant idiot insulted the other day the entire Muslim religion. In his animalistic manner he described the Muslim prayer as lifting ass and facing Mecca. Imagine how a Muslim (no matter how educated he/she is) feels. If you could fathom that, then my friend you know how an average Serb feels about Kosovo.

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sun, Jan 17 2010 20:19 CET

There is an expression in the US: to be AT THE WRONG PLACE IN THE WRONG TIME. That is a saga of Serbia's Kosovo. There are the three sides of that story.
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Let's start with the Albanian side: I heard that there are about 50,000 Albanians in Belgrade. This is a Serbian source, I have no idea. If you survey all those Belgrade Albanians (what ever the # is), one would find that the Albanian at the HIGHEST social ladder is a guy who owns a small bakery. Enough [...]

Read the full comment said. In the US with minute Albanian population, percentage wise, you have a couple of Congressmen, that have some Albanian roots (Joe DioGuardi and Eliot Engel). These two were elected by non-Albanian population. In Serbia, something like that is even today impossible. So when NATO became willing to occupy Kosovo, Albanians couldn't care less that they will never be free under the occupation (if that were the case, the Serbs would overpower them); they rather take soft NATO military occupation, as long as the Serbs were screwed.
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American side: When I married an American lady, we both had the highest education 'under the Sun', yet from the get go, there was a clash of the two cultures. I simply could not understand, how much she valued the $. She would not part with $2, if the life depended on it. I am exaggerating somewhat, but you get the point. I on the other hand, typical Serb, if you hit me in a nerve, I'd swim across the ocean for you. An average American would do something like that, only if you pay him the asking price. THE ENTIRE US FOREIGN POLICY IS NOT BASED ON 'JUSTICE FOR ALL' BUT - THE U.S. I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T-S. That is the first thing to know - why Clinton Administration bomb Serbia (besides the Monica's factor, that I mentioned in so many posts). The U.S. has a 600 ships navy (largely completed under Reagan) and in that strategic puzzle Kosovo is equivalent to SEVEN AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. The second point could be understood only by those who are deeply integrated into the US society. Namely, the US justice system (laws,adversary court system, police, prison-correctional facilities) like just about everything else is based on WINNING AND LOOSING. Henry Kissinger and Lawrence Eagleburger were strongly against the bombing all the way - up to the bombing. But when the bombs started falling, they both argued for - VICTORY! The Congress was divided in half. In May 1999 in the middle of bombing champagne, the Congress voted 213:213 to cut the funding for bombing! If Rod Blagojevic (then Congressman from Chicago) returned back in time from the trip to Belgrade (where he was obtaining release of our three Marines), the vote may tip in opposite direction (Vice P. Gore broke the tie). That was the US case - a mixture of Clinton's sex scandal, 'Drang nach Osten' inertia underwritten by the mighty "American INTERESTS" (not justice), where anybody is free to put whatever he/she wants and the American spirit to put VICTORY in front of every part of life.
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This is enough, I want to give a chance to that Greek Albanian to spell-check it, and to look up in thesaurus if there is any funny synonym

Anonymous Koinos Nous Sun, Jan 17 2010 17:04 CET

Peggy - are you able to translate what your friends "servile" and "benzo" are posting ?

Grateful for any help from the Serbian side of the debate.(At present you all are not doing yourselves many favours !)

Anonymous servile Sun, Jan 17 2010 03:51 CET

"fatmir will complain but not be able to refuse the invitation non the less"

hehe
you are "special" like tadic too :) , wish a lot and got nothing but predictions boy

this article is too late, tadic already has been slept accross the face with fish by Croatia about it. How many hots can a fish take from Tadic's face? lol

Anonymous benzo Sun, Jan 17 2010 02:36 CET

they'll both be there.. boris will get croatia to sit fatmir in a "non leadership" section with celbs and business people and boris will be with the big boys

fatmir will complain but not be able to refuse the invitation non the less

both will be there 50% satisfied

Anonymous Peggy Sun, Jan 17 2010 01:13 CET

Epaminonas says:


"Blackbird Leys" is the current name for one of the worst area of deprived social housing in the UK, ironically situated in the city of Oxford.

"If the cap fits, wear it" (old proverb)

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You old fool. You will try to make anything fit anything even if it has no connection to it just to sound a little "smart".
Like I said before, a real complex there.

Give it up old man. You [...]

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Anonymous Valeri Sat, Jan 16 2010 23:40 CET

Lol Ludvig;))))

good to know Serbs "respect" Islam;)))
... So all that talk about "uniting our Orthonox brothers" was just a ploy to get us to support your land issues?

Lol, Peggy, it's 21 st century babe, losen up and don't take yourself too seriously. It will give you wrinkles or worse;)
All religions and a money scam - face it;)

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sat, Jan 16 2010 17:37 CET

There is a big difference between doing things in the LONG RUN and in the SHORT RUN. In the short run you have a quick fix, you feel good instantly. In the wrong run, the things look nothing like they appear in the short run. Short runs are - military occupations and imposing your will by force onto other countries/people (I am personally allergic on this one), putting down people, taking advantage of someone, hitting-abusing the powerless/defenseless, ones, but being obedient shmock in front of powerful, mighty ones...Short runs are drugs, steroids, silicon breasts and botox injections, lying, cheating, defrauding, [...]

Read the full comment abusing people in general... Long runs are painful, small incremental steps, one step at the time, brick by brick in pursuit of excellence w/ integrity....They say - nothing good comes easy.
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In the short run you often get instant gratification, for which you have to suffer in the long run, and vice versa. they say - it has to get worse, before it gets better.
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"If the cap fits, wear it" (old proverb) Yes that is true, and it fits in this case. But you have to be very naive to think that it only fits for the people you hate (the Serbs). It very well fits the head of your Albanian people too.
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And finally, there is one more proverb. This one I live by in my daily life: "When you climb up the ladder, be nice to the people around you, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MEET ON THE WAY DOWN."

Anonymous Epaminondas Sat, Jan 16 2010 14:36 CET

Yes, Peggy, you are quite right : << Let God Help the Serbs of Kosovo. >>

Perhaps, to aid the Divine Intervention Process, we could send some Christian volunteers from Croation Vukovar, or Moslem Bosnian volunteers from Srebrenice, to help things along ?

There is an old saying that "If you sow the wind, you must reap the whirlwing", and this seems to apply to the Serbs in Kosovo rather neatly.

And, of course just to remind people, "Kosovo Polje" translates into current English as "Blackbird Field", or [...]

Read the full comment into slightly older English as "Blackbird Leys" (Leys is an old word for a flat field.)

"Blackbird Leys" is the current name for one of the worst area of deprived social housing in the UK, ironically situated in the city of Oxford.

"If the cap fits, wear it" (old proverb)

Anonymous Peggy Sat, Jan 16 2010 12:09 CET

Ludvig, all I can say is God help the Serbs of Kosovo for they have to endure hatred, racism, destruction of their churches and cemetaries and still be ridiculed and humiliated.

People like Epaminondas, a.k.a. several names which he even admited using, Argon and now Valeri who has just joined the ranks of lowlife have tried various ways to run us off this site. They tried to sound clever. When that didn't work they used sarcasm and then graduaged to plain rudeness and vulgarities.

Who can live with people like these? Sadly [...]

Read the full comment there seems like there are many, many of them in Kosovo too. God help the Serbs of Kosovo.

Anonymous alban.kcomment@gmail.com Sat, Jan 16 2010 11:15 CET

The Serbian foreign policy has always been driven by megalomania. Unfortunately, we see that it is not bringing any benefit. Better to say that is damaging Serbia’s relations in regional and international level.

In the arc of the last month Kosovo scored two other recognitions from Malawi and Mauritania, raising the number of recognitions in 65. Beyond that two other neighbor states, Montenegro and Croatia where not influenced by the Serbian megalomania and continued to proceed with the process of their programs to strengthen the cooperation with the Republic of Kosova.

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Read the full comment believe that the foreign policy of Serbia must turn his face and see into the future, and remove the hooks of nationalism that is preventing it’s progress.

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Sat, Jan 16 2010 06:16 CET


Valeri:


>>Rule of thumb:
If at the sight of any Serb or Greeks, you feel as though you are about to puke, OR if you sometimes inexplicably feel the urge to go down on the rug, veer your butt up and face Mecca, in the middle of a your daily business, you should definitely go to the doctor and examine your blood.... there might be some Albanian or Turkish contaminates in there...<<

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You fricking idiot, did it ever occur to you to go to the bathroom, lean over the toilet and wash your filthy mouth with bleach. Do you know what you just said?

An Allah fearing Muslim is just another human being, like I am a God fearing human being, you commie scumshit. When you desecrate their ancient religion, make mockery how they pray, laugh at their religious rituals that for them means life, you tell us that you are just another Internet piece of garbage. Brave, dignified people would never hide behind computer and insult FIRST to the bone another human being. Why don't you walk out to the streets of Viena, wher I understand you live your miserable life, and find a Muslim immigrant and tell him straight in the face "go down on the rug, veer your butt up and face Mecca" and you see what is going to happen to you. But in your little room you feel safe to insult ONE BILLION MUSLIMS, ahh?

Anonymous servile Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:54 CET

""I am ready to go there under the condition"
lol Tadic you are a coward. You are nothing but a weak colomn in the balkans, only the weak request "special" treatments.
Would you like a wheelchair with it?

Anonymous Valeri Sat, Jan 16 2010 00:55 CET

"He has Albanian blood running through his veins as he hates Both Serbs and Greeks."

LOL Peggy, that is so funny, albeit, between you and I, slightly unhinged;) Epami, have you checked your blood my friend?

Rule of thumb:

If at the sight of any Serb or Greeks, you feel as though you are about to puke, OR if you sometimes inexplicably feel the urge to go down on the rug, veer your butt up and face Mecca, in the middle of a your daily business, you should [...]

Read the full comment definitely go to the doctor and examine your blood.... there might be some Albanian or Turkish contaminates in there...

I did that and sadly mine has some serious Turkish DNA in it... there is no other way to explain the multitude of women present in my life at any given time;) I often wish I can marry them all;) I know Kavacik understands me;)


Anonymous Peggy Fri, Jan 15 2010 22:35 CET

Russki, Epaminondas, also known under other various names is most likely an Albanian Greek if he has any connection to Greece at all.

He claims to have a Cambridge diploma of some sort but no educated man would stoop so low as to mock people and play the smart arse he always does here.

He has Albanian blood running through his veins as he hates Both Serbs and Greeks. His posts are always against Serbs or anyone who supports them and Greeks.

He plays the "polite"card sometimes when [...]

Read the full comment he realises that he is far inferior to other posters like Ludvig or when he is on your side like anyone against the Serbb.

Don't be fooled by him.

Anonymous epaminondas Fri, Jan 15 2010 18:20 CET

Oh dear, there's no grudge like a Balkan grudge, is there?

I take Ludwig's point, but Nis is a right poxy "hole" anyway, and Bulgaria is most welcome to it. It must have the most unpleasant railway-station toilets on this planet after Hanoi and Chisinau...

Anonymous Ludvig Boltzmann Fri, Jan 15 2010 17:38 CET

Albanians and Croatians are as much victims as the Serbs are. They are being used, drawn into mindless squabbling, instead of being able to concentrate on improving the lives of their people (in countries of Albania and Croatia). As for the Serbs, for them this is a case of our Jerusalem. You take away Kosovo, you may as well take away Nish, Belgrade, Novi Sad.. Then we all should become Muslims or something...

Anonymous russki Fri, Jan 15 2010 17:17 CET

@epminondas, why the fuk you care, your a gayreek, deal with your own problems ,Macedonia, GET A LIFE 4 god sake

Anonymous Peggy Fri, Jan 15 2010 14:29 CET

Epaminondas, looks like the ball's in Croatia's court.

Let's see how much they want a good relationship with Serbia.

Anonymous alain Fri, Jan 15 2010 13:35 CET

It´s childish to say "newly-peaceful relationship", Mesic (one of the destructors of YU), did everything to provoke Serbia, till the last second of his presidency.. May he rott in Hell, thank god Croatia got rid of him...

Anonymous Epminondas Fri, Jan 15 2010 13:04 CET

Isn't this being a bit childish on the part of Tadic ?

Surely his presence at the Croatian President's inauguration is of rather more importance in cementing the newly-peaceful relationship of Serbia and Croatia ?


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