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Serbia and Kosovo continue their tug ‘o war at the UN

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Serbia and Kosovo continue their tug ‘o war at the UN

Serbian president Boris Tadic.

In a brief encounter – no more than a handshake and a few words – Kosovo president Fatmir Sejdiu thanked US president Barack Obama for Washington’s support for Kosovo.
 
According to Kosovo media, the exchange took place at a reception hosted by Obama, a passing moment as top-level representatives of Belgrade and Pristina continue their battle in and around United Nations headquarters in New York over the issue of Kosovo’s self-declared independence.
 
Serbia, as a UN member state, has the right to speak in a scheduled General Assembly debate on Kosovo. But Kosovo, while it is recognised by most EU member states and a number of UN states, has no status at the UN beyond that of observer.
 
Sejdiu also had contact with some of the leaders of countries that firmly reject Kosovo’s February 2008 unilateral declaration of independence, including Spain and Cyprus, said Kosovo media on September 25 2009, quoting a statement from Sejdiu’s office.
 
The statement said that Sejdiu had met the president of Macedonia, Turkey’s prime minister, the prime ministers of Nepal and of Grenada, the deputy prime minister of Jamaica, as well as Portugal’s foreign minister.
 
Serbian president Boris Tadic was scheduled to address the General Assembly on September 25, and said beforehand that he was sure that his speech would persuade UN member states that had not recognised Kosovo to continue not to do so.
 
Tadic has had rounds of meetings of his own, including with Obama, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev – Moscow is a stout ally of Belgrade; European Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn, Nato Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, among others, Serbian news agency Tanjug said.
 
In all these meetings, Tadic underlined Belgrade’s key point that recognition of Kosovo as independent is a violation of Serbia’s territorial integrity and of international law.
 
 
 

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Anonymous Peggy Tue, Oct 06 2009 23:23 CET

If Kosovo UDI was legal and now they are a country why then they cannot even get into FIFA?
IMF is not an indication of whether someone is a country or not.
When you get a seat in the UN, get into FIFA or Olympics then you might be taken seriously or as a country. Until then Res 1244 applies.

If I am losing argument then fine with me. I will just wait and see what happens after ICJ has handed down their opinion.

62 countries willing to [...]

Read the full comment break international law does not make Kosovo a legal country. Why haven't the rest of the world recognised Kosovo? Perhaps because the UDI was illegal?

Let's just wait and see. No need to argue any further.

Anonymous Alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Mon, Oct 05 2009 15:39 CET

So it goes darling, the Montenegro secede by "deteriorating" that situation and furthermore after that recognized Kosova independence. That independence is already known in much more than a half of dissolved SFRY territory and as well more than 50% of population there. Anyway, let see what ICJ opinion will be.

Anonymous Epaminondas Sun, Oct 04 2009 19:42 CET

Peggy - I may have been slightly wrong. Russia is the "successor state" to the USSR, but Serbia is not the successor state to Federal Jugoslavia. Text follows:

<<International convention since the end of the Cold War has come to distinguish two distinct circumstances where such privileges are sought by such a successor state, in only the first of which may such successor states assume the name or privileged international position of their predecessor. The first set of circumstances arose at the dissolution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in 1991. One of this [...]

Read the full comment federation's constituent republics, the Russian Federation was declared the USSR's successor state on the grounds that it contained just under 60 % of the population of the USSR and a larger majority of its territory. In consequence, it acquired the USSR's seat as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council. (See Russia and the United Nations.)

This resolution was in sharp contrast to the manner in which the United Nations dealt with the claim of the federation of Serbia and Montenegro to be recognised as the continuation of the state of Yugoslavia (albeit as the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia as opposed to the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). These two republics shared in common less than half of the population and territory of the former federation and the UN refused to allow the new federation to sit in the General Assembly of the United Nations under the name of 'Yugoslavia'. Thus followed over a decade where the state was referred to uneasily as the Former Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FFRY).>>>

I must admit I can recall references to FFRY in UK Foreign Office telegrams. When combined with references to FYROM and to FEOGA /EAGGF , they could mystify even the most expert reader !

Anonymous Alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sun, Oct 04 2009 13:58 CET

Sorry it may cause misunderstanding. FMN stands for IFM (International Monetary Found)

Anonymous Alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sun, Oct 04 2009 13:53 CET

Dear Peggy. Everybody can see that comment after comment you're loosing arguments.

All constitutive parts of dissolved SFRY are successors of SFRY. I don't see in any part of SFRY constitution that Serbia is the solely and exclusive successor of SFRY. If it had to be voted by all other successors, they already have voted for legitimacy of UDI by recognizing it. And finally international organizations like let say FMN for example have addressed the Kosovar part of the dissolved FRY obligations to the Rep. of Kosova. I can give as well 1000 other reasons about [...]

Read the full comment this argument. The problem is what you are going to believe, that you want to, or that really count.

According to Kosovar delegation in UN, trust me they are been 80 serious discussion with other delegations, and I don't mean here those ones where the voice of Rep. of Kosova is gone through Albanian delegation, and other supporting countries.

Bye darling,

Anonymous Peggy Sun, Oct 04 2009 12:29 CET

Alban wrote this:

"Kosova was part of SFRY and with Costitution of 1974 it was part autonomous and constitutive of SFRY. Kosova didn't split from SFRY, just SFRY does not exist any more"

You're right, SFRY doesn't exist any more but Serbia is a successor to Yugoslavia. Kosovo not being a republic had no right to secede from Yugoslavia any more than it has not from Serbia who as I pointed out already is a successor to Yuglsavia.

Let's just wait and see what fruit that 80 delegation [...]

Read the full comment meeting your leaders had in the corridors or where ever they succeeded in cornering those people bears.
They were invited to certain parts of the building by Albania. They were not invited there to hold high level talks or speak at GA.

I don't even belive that they managed to speak to that many people either. Maybe they nodded a hello while passing each other in the mens room to most of them.

Anonymous Alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sun, Oct 04 2009 10:19 CET

Dear Peggy, It is totally irrational your say "It really doesn't matter what you or I say". If it's so just follow the long story of your discussions in this forum, but as well in other forums. Otherwise, why you're wasting your time then? Haven't you s.th. better to do?

Regarding the the passes. Kosova delegation had at least 80 meetings and everybody was there. That is the real arena of speach. This tell's to me a lot and explain the Jeremic's desperate act of protest.

Regarding the ICJ, you are totally [...]

Read the full comment wrong and uninformed. ICJ does not have the authority of "Verdict" but that of an opinion. But let's get stick to what it will be.

Kosova was part of SFRY and with Costitution of 1974 it was part autonomous and constitutive of SFRY. Kosova didn't split from SFRY, just SFRY does not exist any more. Slobodan Milosevic revoke by force Kosova autonomy in 1989. This is the real ground where the ICJ have to discus about the legacy. I don't think Serbian part will have any chance to get any thing but let's see. If ICJ come to the idea that the autonomy revocation was illegal, and according the SFRY constitution, UDI is considered legal (because so is considered as well from all constitutive parts of SFRY except Serbia) further recognition will follow with much higher speed. If it will happened, "veto game" is over.

Anonymous Sceptic Sat, Oct 03 2009 13:15 CET

Hawk - you really should learn some French. The current French term for Republic of Macedonia is "Republique de Macedoine". You can find it on any of the European maps in French easily available in Google.

(For purists, the French acronym for fYRoM is ERYdM - Ex-Republique Yougoslave de Macedoine. The UN site will have this.)

Of course, "Macedoine" is also on the can of mixed vegetables that you buy at your local SuperU supermarket in France....

Anonymous Peggy Sat, Oct 03 2009 03:03 CET

Let me clear it up for you.
When I said nothing to say let's twist a few things I was talking as an Albanian since you people are so good at that.

It really doesn't matter what you or I say anyway. ICJ will deliver their verdict and the law is the law no matter how anyone tries to interpret it. The law cannot be twisted when a direct question like "Was the UDI illegal" is asked. Also getting passes to some parts of the UN building is not having an arena to speak. [...]

Read the full comment This should tell Albanians something.

Anonymous Alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Fri, Oct 02 2009 13:33 CET

Dear hawk. Enlarge your knowledge...,

http://ricettacolo.com/ricetta/macedonia-alla-fiamma

[deleted link]

http://ricettacolo.com/ricetta/macedonia-di-ottobre

Semplicemente, prima di chiudere, volevo darti a te, e a quelli che la pensano come te, una evidenza della mia ignoranza e stupidita ;).

Dear Friend, the credibility is not build on the will but in evidences. Finally it remain individuals property, but this is another thing.

I'm sorry that discussion felt in such low level.

[...]

Read the full comment /> Any way if you think you're right, no one can stop you. But it would be better if you follow Peggy suggestion.

Ciao amico

Anonymous Peggy Wed, Sep 30 2009 12:06 CET

Hawk, they are clutching at straws. Nothing to say so let's twist a few things.

Anonymous Hawk Wed, Sep 30 2009 10:36 CET

Difference between "macedoine" and "Macedonia" is quite substantial. Even pronunciation is completely different.

So there is no need to try to input something that don't stand. People who read this posts are not stupid.

Anonymous Sceptic Tue, Sep 29 2009 18:43 CET

it is true that - in French - "macedoine" is a culinary term for diced/mixed vegetables or fruit, as in "macedoine des legumes". But this is hardly a political point - more of a culinary one.

Anonymous Hawk Mon, Sep 28 2009 11:26 CET

My dear Alban.Kcomment,
To quote you: "...In Italian, "Tutti - Frutti" and "Macedonia" have the same meaning..."
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
That is the MOST STUPID THING I've have ever read.
Stop embarrassing yourself, my friend. People who read this posts are not stupid (although you wish they are), and by showing them your ignorance and stupidity, you are just ruin Albanian credibility, which is very low, anyway.
My only advice to my friends Albanians is to stop living in la-la land of Albanian myths, legends and megalomania [...]

Read the full comment of Greater Albania, and look around you. Face the reality. You would not be able to do anything without Serbia. As I already said, Serbia will always be "above your head"! So, it is much better for you to stop your false propaganda lies and get back to Serbia where you'll have bright and prosperous future.

AnonymousAlban.Kcomment@gmail.comMon, Sep 28 2009 03:40 CET

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Anonymous Hawk Sun, Sep 27 2009 16:39 CET

Dear alban.kcomment,
I couldn't agree with you more on the matter that we are so different. And of course with your statement that "NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO THINK THEMSELVES AS A SUPERIOR NATION." But since Albanians feel superior to the other nations in the Balkans, you'll have very big problems in the very near future, if your continue to conduct yourselves as a superior to the others. Just read your statement about Macedonians: "...I left a lot of things without commenting the "tutti-frutti" state and his ridiculous Encyclopedia..."
To you, Macedonia is "Tutti-frutti" state?!?! [...]

Read the full comment And you are insulting internationally recognized state, member of UN, and at the same time telling people who read your posts here, that you Albanians don't feel superior to other Balkan nations? You're contradicting yourself in the same post. Sad and laughable.
About your exit to the sea through Albania, I agree. And every summer you could go there and spend some money on swimming and sunbathing. Highways and electric grids will connect Greater Albania, no doubt. But Greater Albania is and will stay Europe's appendix. If you want to connect with EU, your fastest way is through Serbia. But after what you did, that will cost you dearly. Of course, you may try to connect to EU by alternative routes, but those will cost you even much more then connection through Serbia. So, face the facts fast or as EU appendix you'll be cut out very quickly and with great efficiency.
And at the end, I want to address famous Albanian legend and myth that there is 92% Albanians in Kosovo & Metohia. Of course that is a notorious lie. In Kosovo & Metohia at the moment there is just 79% of Albanians, that is about 1 300 000 people. Non-Albanian population is about 350 000 (about 21%), and there are more then 250 000 Serbs and about 100 000 other nationalities (Romas, Montenegrans, Macedonians, Gorans etc...). Having in mind that in June 1999., after NATO entered in K&M Albanians killed, expelled and ethnically cleansed more then 250 000 Serbs and other non-Albanians, which are prohibited by Albanian temporary institutions in K&M to return to their homes, we could easily come to the figure of about 600 000 non-Albanians living in Kosovo before NATO bombardment. One day, I'm quite sure, all those who Albanians expelled from their homes will return, and then we will have real population ratio in Kosovo in which Albanians will be about 60% of overall population, and non-Albanians will consist about 30% of population.
So, my dear Albanian friends, stop wasting your time on living in ignorance and myths and face the reality. An that is that in 10 years time you'll be under prosperous auspices of your motherland Serbia. And that will be much better for you. Then, you'll have future, unlike now.

Anonymous Peggy Sun, Sep 27 2009 05:20 CET

"I'm sorry for your blindness when you state "Kosovo is NOT a country by any stretch of imagination". For me it is my new state which is in it's first steps and has a clear and secure prospectives for it's future."

Alban, you are in such a denial.

How do you expect to achieve everything you need to in order to be a country? How do you stop UN (EULEX) from making deals with Serbian behind your back?
How do you get rid of Camp Bondsteel which is clearly set [...]

Read the full comment up there for US purposes only?

How do you get around 5 EU countries' veto?
How do you get around Russian and Chinese veto in the UN?

The agreement you have now with US is that Kosovo will be administered by the UN. Does this sound like a country to you?
Which other country is not allowed to make their own deals but has to get approval from EULEX?

I can't imagine how you can possibly think you you are a country unless you are so deep in denial like you are.

Anonymous alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sun, Sep 27 2009 02:57 CET

Sorry mates, For some reason this blog accepted only the card link of Mrs. Ramet study but not the study link which is ( http://hrcak.srce.hr/file/4768 )

Anonymous alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sun, Sep 27 2009 02:51 CET

OK then "Hawk". The problem is because we are so different. First of all is that you think "Anybody has every right to think of themselves as a superior nation", the right term do describe the way you think is called "Megalomania". We think very differently. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO THINK THEMSELVES AS A SUPERIOR NATION. This kind of symptome you have is explained in the study of Sabrina p. Ramet ([deleted link]/) "The Inculcation of Neurotic & Psychotic Syndromes as a Serbian Wartime Strategy" (download study link: [deleted link] ).

Serbs haven't payed [...]

Read the full comment nothing yet. They have to pay a lot for all bloodshed in Balkan. As for Albanians I don't understand you. What did they to pay for?

Regarding your "in time warming" the problem is that Albanians don't give a hell to unwelcomed "warmings", threatenings. Specially when there is not any argument to support your "warming". If you mean the geographical position, through Albania we have a beautiful exit to the sea. Communication and energetic hi ways are going to connect our country (s) and we don't have to go through other countries who threat us with ridiculous blockades. So there is not any reason to justify your "worries".
Finally S.th. for "Srb". According to many sources, anyone can find them easily, in Rep. of Kosova, the ethnic composition is as follows: 92% Albanians, 8% minorities (among them 5% Serbs). With this composition, any normal person can not find any justifiable reason why Kosova should be with Serbia. May be this can be an other argument to sustain that Mrs. Ramet is definitely right with her study.

I left a lot of things without commenting the "tutti-frutti" state and his ridiculous Encyclopedia. The reason is because this is not the argument of this blog. May be I will have the pleasure to see you in a dedicated blog to have as we always done, a quiet, nice and poly discussion.

Good luck again "Hawk" & Srb

Anonymous Hawk Sat, Sep 26 2009 16:47 CET

Dear alban.kcomment,
You don't have to apologize at all. Anybody has every right to think of themselves as a superior nation. Serbs did that and they payed for it. Now it's your, Albanian turn. But, that is your problem.
I just wanted to warn you in time that your geographical position and your sustained ignoring of Serbia's interests will eventually lead you to become the Europe's appendix. One day, sooner or later, common K-Albanian citizens will realize that "independence" is not food. And then you'll be forced to sit around the table with Serbs to negotiate [...]

Read the full comment your future. As soon as you realize that, it'll be better for you.

Anonymous Srb Sat, Sep 26 2009 15:58 CET

As long as Serbs live in th region Kosovo and Metohija will always be Serbian. The situation now on the ground is only temporary. Serbia will be free again.

Anonymous alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sat, Sep 26 2009 12:36 CET

Dear "Hawk"

If what you state is what you think, still your business. I'm sorry but I can't follow your way because I have my own way.

Good luck

Anonymous Hawk Sat, Sep 26 2009 12:01 CET

Dear alban.kcomment,

You are sad and laughable person. That is since you are automatically presuming that anyone who disagree with you is Serb.
About Serbian "complexes" as you put it (wrong word on the wrong place) - it is true that they payed dearly for their political ignorance, but they eventually came to their senses, unlike K-Albanians. Now it is Albanian turn to pay for your false sense of superiority and political stupidity of your so-called political leaders who became politicians simply by taking off their KLA uniforms and putting on new and expensive [...]

Read the full comment Armani suits (which BTW they bought from your money).
By ignoring Serbia, K-Albanians will stay landlocked and without any chance to normally connect with EU. Your 100-year old dream of creating Greater Albania, unlike you said, is not just your business. Neither EU nor your neighboring countries will let you do that. And if you don't believe me, you may refer to new Macedonian encyclopedia, to see what Macedonians honestly think of you.
Albanian megalomania of creating Greater Albania is the only true source of political and territorial instability in the Balkans. And if you think that anyone will let you to do what you want, you are gravely mistaking.

Anonymous alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Sat, Sep 26 2009 11:29 CET

Hi peggy! I know it's too difficult for you to understand. Same difficulty was to understand UMNIK position when they. They started displacing the center of gravity to Beograd and forgot who are the real factor there. Now have e ridiculous reduced position in Kosova. Same thing is valid for resolution 1244 which is just some words written in a piece of paper, but we in Kosova don't see any real effect in our everyday life just to say what you stated before, FIFA, Olympics games etc... .

Of course, the protests will continue as long [...]

Read the full comment as people will notice s,th. is going wrong and not only against EULEX but against Kosova government it selves.

No one is considering that ONU membership is not important. What I've stated before was that ONU issue is something can wait. The reason is because we have got not numerical but qualitative recognition which allow us to follow our way to consolidate our freedom. An other reason is that We still having other problems with standards we aim to meet which are more important than numbers we need to get ONU recognition. By the end the standards have the most importance for us but as well will help further recognitions which are proceeding with a slow speed but not stopped.

Regarding the veto (this is my personal opinion), we Albanians are one people with two states and two governments. The truth is that two governments for 6 million people are a big weight to hold. I don't know if you can get the meaning but I don't see any reason why one people should keep two states two governments and considering that both of them for a long time have payed the costs, one a long time of communist self-isolation and the other one a long time of occupation. So it's easy, there is not any reason to get integrated in bigger organization's if we don't get integrated as a nation.

I'm sorry for your blindness when you state "Kosovo is NOT a country by any stretch of imagination". For me it is my new state which is in it's first steps and has a clear and secure prospectives for it's future.

Anonymous Albiqete Sat, Sep 26 2009 04:32 CET

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Anonymous Peggy Sat, Sep 26 2009 02:21 CET

I don't get it. How can K-Albanians say that they are free and a country when they cannot make their own decisions. Everything has to go through UN (by way of EULEX). Just the other day EULEX signed deals they made with Serbia.
Protests from all over Kosovo (except the Serbian held areas) but the Snake had no choice but to accept it.

Until res 1244 is withdrawn, and only with Serbian signature, it will stay in effect and Pristina has no say. The courts are administered by EULEX. No membership in UN means [...]

Read the full comment no participation in Olympics or even FIFA. No membership in EU either thanks to five countries there and all it takes is ONE.

For a country, Kosovo certainly cannot do much. They don't even have a choice who is on their ground. Camp Bondsteel is not going to go away until they are good and ready (try getting rid of them). Kosovo is NOT a country by any stretch of imagination. It is only a hostage of the west ready to be exploited for their own gain.
Even if it gets recognised by a fewe more countries. So what. Think, veto in the UN and veto in the EU, permanantly.

Anonymous alban.kcomment@gmail.com Sat, Sep 26 2009 01:30 CET

Dear Hawk. Thank you for your goodwill. I disagree totally with you about what will be better for us. But I consider a good thing that they are Serbians who understand that the decision is hope to us and not to Serbia.

The main problem you have is megalomania and national ID complexes. This kind of illness leaded you to fight four wars by destroying Yugoslavia. As well it make your politicians blind and
deaf when everyone show and tells them that the water doesn't go upward.

Maybe we can [...]

Read the full comment be together under EU umbrella but not under Serbian umbrella. The reason is that for us never existed Serbian one.

Regarding our relation with Albania is our business.

Finally I appreciate even the other fact that finally I could communicate with a Serbian blogger who don't use epithets. CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Anonymous Hawk Sat, Sep 26 2009 00:10 CET

Maybe UM membership is not so important for K-Albanians, after all. But it will be much easier for them if they are member of UN.
Anyway, K-Albanian main problem is their relationship with Serbia. If someone look carefully on the map, it could be easily seen that Kosovo is landlocked and that its only way to EU is across Serbia. So, if K-Albanians continue to defy Serbia, they could be very easily be faced with a very complicated transportation problem with EU.
On the other hand, they could try to establish Greater Albania by unifying with [...]

Read the full comment Albania - but that solution will have two problems. First, K-Albanians started war with the cry that they don't want to live in "Greater Serbia", and they could end up with forming Greater Albania.
Second, they may try to connect themselves with the EU through ports in Albania, but in that case, if they want to reach any EU country, they would have to go across whole Italy to reach them. And that route is about 2000 miles longer then the route through Serbia.
So, I just wonder how they imagine their future without any contact with its motherland, Serbia.

Anonymous commentator Fri, Sep 25 2009 23:49 CET

Kosovo under mono-ethnic, criminal Albanian rule has no chance of becoming recognized "country". It'll continue to be black hole in the Balkans. Serbia has all the right plugs to stop this nonsense and illegal orgy created by USA and its satellites. For now, diplomacy is the only way to solve this problem, unfortunately Albanian citizens of Serbia just don't get it.

Anonymous alban.Kcomment@gmail.com Fri, Sep 25 2009 23:43 CET

Dear "Not just UN" (sorry I couldn't get your name), As I've tried to explain from the very beginning, for us is not the most important the question of status. Anyway we have most of it and to be really "understandable" I've tried to show it in statistical way, but always pointing to what is most important thing for us, "the standards". I've seen that I had some reactions to my blog and checked to be more "understandable", for that I've explained with very simple words what was behind the real status. Unfortunately the respondent (s) had an other problem. [...]

Read the full comment According to that I've offered an argument in my third contribute with reference to one source other than Albanian or Serb ones.

If someone is interested in Kosovo status matter there is a lot of sources in Internet just to say: http://www.bosnia.org.uk/news/news_body.cfm?newsid=2487 and this is not the only one.

What really mater to me is what will be with this kind of ugly, archaic and medieval nationalism. Of course Serbia and it's citizens who have been for decades under the pressure of such propaganda, suffer a lot those symptoms. But no one of Balkan countries is immunized from this kind of illness. A last example is the first edition of "Macedonian Encyclopedia".

Now I've arrived to the key point.
What is the real "SATUS"??? That one recognized by international organizations or the standards one country realize. I think the answer is the second one, this is why I'm calling all Kosovars, to get the standards, the recognition will be the consequence of that.

Regarding to Serbian big painful efforts to stop the recognition, no one can tell them what to do or not. To me it's sound a big political waste.

Anonymous Not just UN Fri, Sep 25 2009 22:35 CET

It's incorrect to believe that only countries in the UN are "real" or independent.

Several UN member states were not UN members for many decades: Switzerland, Andorra and South Korea only joined the UN in the 1990s! That doesn't mean they didn't exist in the 1980s. Vatican City is indisputably an independent state, and is internationally recognized as such without being a full member of the UN.

Taiwan is a functional state (the official title of the "Republic of China" is in practical terms a misnomer) even though it is recognized by [...]

Read the full comment fewer countries than Kosovo is and holds no UN seat.

If Kosovo can stabilize its domestic situation, maintain recognition from the majority of its neighbors so its borders stay open, and continues to receive international acceptance of its passports even by non-recognizing countries, then most Kosovars stand to lose little by remaining outside the UN. They still have extensive freedom of movement and their own institutions. Kosovo has joined many multinational institutions including the IMF, is recognized by the European Union Parliament, and likely to be recognized by the Council of Europe. Many of the states that haven't explicitly recognized are also refusing to accept the Serbian position - Ukraine, Bangladesh and New Zealand have made it clear their non-recognition is merely them being "status neutral".

Economic growth, political stability, refugee return, more autonomy for Turkish, Serb and Bosniak minorities, and an open process of self-examination over human rights abuses committed by the KLA, are all FAR more important to the healthy development of Kosovo than further recognitions. If Kosovo remains independent for another 40 or 50 years even without extensive recognition, its time will eventually come.

Anonymous Alban Fri, Sep 25 2009 21:38 CET

A further conclusion may also be inferred, viz., that if one can define collective syndromes which reveal a society’s lapses into mental illness, then one can define what characteristics are constitutive of a society’s good mental health and outline at least the rudiments of such policies and structures as are conducive to such health.
A great study published in "hrcak - Portal of scientific journals of Croatia".

Link:
http://hrcak.srce.hr/file/4768

Anonymous Canadian Fri, Sep 25 2009 21:03 CET

The above comments about having one's own institutions and percentages does not change the fact that Kosovo is only an entity without a status. Kosova had its cake and ate it, too.

Anonymous alban Fri, Sep 25 2009 19:49 CET

I live here, I speak my language, I elect my institutions, I watch my tv, I have my president, my courts, my prosecutors, my doctors, my teachers etc... . Everything is mine. I'm not scared from the policeman out there, from the soldier and from anyone. I don't give a hell to Serbia. You may say I'm not free. It's your business. Who cares??? Important is what I live and what I fill everyday.

Anonymous Rich E. Fri, Sep 25 2009 19:15 CET

Simply realize that unless Kosovo is a member of the UN, it is not an independent country. Respect international law. If there are arbitrary exceptions to a law it is not a law.

Anonymous Facts Fri, Sep 25 2009 18:34 CET

Camp Bondsteel was what USA needed in the region. That's what it was all about in 1999. But, USA has opened up a hornet's nest - an extremist, intolerant Muslim state right in Europe. In addition, a failed state that aligns itself to Albania. More problems on the horizon as a Greater Albania takes shape.

Anonymous realist@usa.net Fri, Sep 25 2009 18:03 CET

Country based on drug trafficing and prostitution can not sustain itself on a long term. Kosovo is a Serbian word and has a meaning in Serbian, while it means nothing in Albanian. Also, Albanians already have their own state, why would they be only nation in Europe that has two states? How they are special?

Anonymous Alban.KComment@gmail.com Fri, Sep 25 2009 15:21 CET

Never Serbia will have Kosova back again. Otherwise this mean a big trouble not only for Kosova and Serbia but for the whole region. Until now Kosova has the recognition from 62 countries and expecting very soon the recognition from 15 countries who already have declared their decision. Until now Serbia has realized only to slow down further recognitions but not to stop them. On the other side, countries who have recognized the independence of Rep. of Kosova represent 60% of UNSC, 81.5% of EU members, 85.7% of NATO members, 70.2% of Council of Europe etc... . So numbers have [...]

Read the full comment the importance given by the quality who rests behind those. I don't think that for the moment it is important the speed of new recognitions as long as they still going on. The most important for the Rep. of Kosova is to realize standards for it's citizens and the country it want to be.


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Belgrade has sent a formal protest note to the UN secretariat about the presence of Kosovo leaders at UN headquarters, while Kosovo says the trip will yield new recognitions soon.

Serbian president Tadic's firm message on Kosovo at the UN

At the UN General Assembly, Serbian president Boris Tadic urges all countries that have not recognised Kosovo as independent to ‘stay the course’.

Proposal in European Parliament to include Kosovo in Schengen visa deal

Draft proposal put to European Parliament’s legal affairs committee says that Kosovo should be included among Western Balkans countries to be exempted from Schengen visa requirements.

Kosovo ‘will have more allies’ than Serbia at ICJ – report

About 30 countries have applied to be heard in public debate in the International Court of Justice case on the question of the legality of Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence, and Pristina claims the largest share are its allies.

First agreement on US assistance for Kosovo signed in Pristina

The deal, signed on September 14 2009, will provide for Washington to assist Kosovo in economic development and rule of law.

Kosovo will not be a problem for Spanish EU presidency – Moratinos

Spain, which takes over the rotating presidency of the EU on January 1 2010, is among the bloc’s members that does not recognise Kosovo, but says that this will not be a problem and that Madrid respects different points of view.

Refusal to recognise Kosovo hampering EU enlargement – Ahtisaari

In the space of less than a week, former UN special envoy for Kosovo Martti Ahtisaari twice says publicly that the EU should not accept Serbia as a member unless Belgrade recognises Kosovo as independent, and says that countries not recognising Kosovo are holding up EU expansion.

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