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Turkey, Armenia move toward diplomatic ties, opening of border
Turkish president Abdullah Gul.
Photo: Umit Bektas
Turkey and Armenia are to hold six weeks of intensive domestic consultations and will ask the approval of their respective parliaments in a move towards a deal, brokered by Switzerland, on establishing diplomatic relations and opening their mutual border.
The key dividing factor between the two neighbouring countries has been an episode in history that Armenia and its backers describe as a genocide of its people under Ottoman rule, a claim that Ankara rejects, saying that the mass deaths were a result of a breakdown of order as the then-empire crumbled.
The countries agreed on April on a process to take them in the direction of diplomatic relations.
"The most important aspect of good relations between two neighbours is that they should recognise each other's borders," Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu Davutoglu said in an interview with a Turkish television station on September 1 2009.
The two countries have had no diplomatic ties since 1991, when Armenia became independent, and in 1993, Ankara ordered the mutual border closed because of the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Upper Karabakh region.
One of the first signs of hope for a thawing of relations between Ankara and Yerevan was in 2008 when Turkish president Abdullah Gul, at the invitation of his Armenian counterpart Serzh Sarkisian, attended a 2010 World Cup qualifying football match in Armenia.
On October 14 2009, Sarkisian is to go to Turkey for World Cup qualifying return match.
The key dividing factor between the two neighbouring countries has been an episode in history that Armenia and its backers describe as a genocide of its people under Ottoman rule, a claim that Ankara rejects, saying that the mass deaths were a result of a breakdown of order as the then-empire crumbled.
The countries agreed on April on a process to take them in the direction of diplomatic relations.
"The most important aspect of good relations between two neighbours is that they should recognise each other's borders," Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu Davutoglu said in an interview with a Turkish television station on September 1 2009.
The two countries have had no diplomatic ties since 1991, when Armenia became independent, and in 1993, Ankara ordered the mutual border closed because of the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the Upper Karabakh region.
One of the first signs of hope for a thawing of relations between Ankara and Yerevan was in 2008 when Turkish president Abdullah Gul, at the invitation of his Armenian counterpart Serzh Sarkisian, attended a 2010 World Cup qualifying football match in Armenia.
On October 14 2009, Sarkisian is to go to Turkey for World Cup qualifying return match.
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Mr. REALS Trust me you can look at there faces as a friend Cause you are a GRAND IDEOT But trust me you TURKS YOU BARBERIANS are back stabers No one will turn there backs to you and walk away 1.5 Million we can not forget nor we will there is a reason that Greeks Kurds and Armenians they call each other BROTHERS but you are such a BARBERIAN IDEOT that that you still dont know why you don't know what is the reason of us armenians or greeks or kurds are all around the world and not in our [...]
Read the full comment MOTHERLAND if you want the throught you should read your history well not the way you fucked up GUL. teaches you or other BARBERIAN IDEOTS where was Turky when there was armenia go and learn the world History see where you come from you dont even know that Let me tell you one thing let me tell you who is your Grand father (GENGHIS KHAN) this is the guy that you come from you dont have to teach me my history why don't you go and ask your mother who is your father make sure you listen to the answer good cause I dont think she will lie to you. anyways at the end of the day you are an IDEOT BARBERIAN.
I am talking to you last time. Firstly, I have a lot of Armenian(and Kurdish, Greek) friends. And they are good humans! They are my friends. I don't care where they are from. And I can look their faces than I can say they are my friends. And I can see the good honorable humans when I look them. But I don't think YOU are a human. There are WARS because OF people like you.
Secondly, you are calling me barberian or (any Turkish people). If you go to Turkey and meet any Turkish people, you gonna see [...]
Read the full comment are Turkish really barberian like you say or are Turkish respectful, helpful and honorable! I am Turk and I am very proud to be Turk. I have one of the biggest history in the world.
So, doesn't matter one unnecessary person say what or think what! Because you gonna say again what you learn or read in your country.
You may trying to guard your country but you CAN NOT tell Turkish people are killers or barberians or bad. You still don't know what you talking about.
And I am not calling Armenians are bad people. I or you can not say to people are bad because where they are from. Every people has their own story and own honor. But you are calling Turkish are barberians!
Am I a barberian? I don't think so!
Am I an unknowing person? I don't think so! I am a college student in the usa. I came here to learn all history in the world. And I traveled all over the world. I can see that how the americans and the other nations learning history! I can see that how they teaching history to their students! I can see that which country have more quality than the others! AND I can see that which country have more honor than the others!!
GOD bless humans. Turkish or Armenian or others.. doesn't matter!
I have my honor. But somebody don't have this reality!!!
I won't talk anymore than this massage.
First Of all Mr. Reals or MISS or whoever hell you are The Armenians would not have any Revolutionary parties if there was not such a thing let me tell you a little history you SCUMBAG in 1887 the first revolutionary party Started Called HENCHG AKA (S.D.H.P) to wake up the armenian people from paying Havy TAXES to your dirty govrnment and get our own lands back that was taken from us back in the history thats how it started the armenian REVOLUTION my Nasty TURCK I would not call you a friend or a Barberian cause the Barberians would [...]
Read the full comment not do that now call whatever fuck you wonna call it Lie Ganocide Murder or nothing or it didnt happen you can say anything it's fine you belive in that but wait untill the fight is over and the country that stand will be the winner oh one more thing you talk as you are a big shot but i dont think you ever drank milk from your mother cause you speak like GOTS AND MAY GOD BLESS YOUR MOTHER
let me tell you something! You don't know what you are talking about! You don't even know the history over there! You just talking with fabrications. It is not true that Turkey committed genocide! Why do you think that Ottoman Empire were demolished while they were living with the all non-Muslim communities and the minorities in Ottoman? Because they didn't committed genocide. If they did it, all these the minorities must talk Turkish, live with Turkish culture, and still stay in Turkey's border. But not!
Let me tell you again, the history is not just what you learn [...]
Read the full comment in the school or read any papers! They tell you lies!! american government teach the history to their children how they want without trues! america trying to make their imperialism! american imperialism can work on all every countries except Turkey!!
Soccer Diplomacy .......
Turkey committed genocide against the Armenians and against the Greeks during WW1. Its time for Turkey and the rest of the world to recognise this. Its because they are a superpower and a close ally of the USA that they think that they can get away from this issue, just like they think they can get away from the Cyprus invasion. You can run but you can not hide.. Genocide was committed and Turkey must pay..
Lets just forget the 1.5 million Armenians that were killed by Turkey. Not to mention the millions of Greeks, Greek-Cypriot, Kurds too. Notice the trend here... HEY MURDER THEIR NEIGHBORS! Politicians making nice does not mean the people are. Media can never change this. They are only fooling themselves!