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Row over alleged maltreatment of Bulgarians in Macedonia
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The Bulgarian government was determined to defend and support Bulgarians abroad, Dragovest Goranov, Foreign Ministry spokesperson, was quoted by Focus news agency as saying.
According to Goranov, the Foreign Ministry had sent a verbal note to the chargé d'affaires of the Macedonian embassy in Sofia, Divna Trickovska, about Spaska Mitrova, a Macedonian citizen who allegedly self-identifies as a Bulgarian, and who had been recently sentenced to three months in jail.
"We are still awaiting for Macedonia’s official reaction to our questions in the Spaska Mitrova case. For now we have not received eithera written or verbal reply," Goranov was quoted by Focus newsagency as saying on August 6 2009.
"We expect to receive a reply within a week or so. If not, we have other means to raise the issue," Goranov was quoted as saying.
A day earlier, however, Macedonian broadcaster Mina said the Macedonian Foreign Ministry had sent its reply.
"Both counties must not allow citizenship and passports to be abused as an alibi in connection with divorce issues or tax evasion ... We expect the Bulgarian authorities to distance themselves from this classic manipulation, because relations between the two friendly countries must not be held hostage by people seeking justification for their family quarrels and crimes," Mina quoted the Macedonian Foreign Ministry reply as saying.
The Bulgarian note, as quoted by Mina said that the court had sentenced the woman only because she was Bulgarian. The note also said the Bulgarian ministry "had found other facts that raised suspicion that Bulgarian citizens as well as Macedonian citizens who would proclaim to be Bulgarian, were under administrative and police pressure, only because of their national self-awareness." In the note, Mina says, Sofia warns that it will "review Macedonia's treatment of this and other similar cases as one of the criteria, which are crucial for assessing country's readiness to change and kick-start its European Union integration."
According to Mina, the woman had been sentenced for not allowing her ex-husband to visit their 2-year old daughter, failing to observe a ruling of relevant judicial and social institutions.
Macedonian daily Utrinski Vesnik quoted unnamed sources as saying that the case was clear from a legal point of view and was not about prosecution of Bulgarian citizens. According to Utrinski Vesnik, after the sentence, the woman had asked and received a postponement and was supposed to go to prison on June 14 2009. Meanwhile, Utrinski Vesnik quoted its unnamed sources as saying, she had been granted a Bulgarian passport.
Bulgarian Socialist Member of the European Parliament Evgeni Kirilov said he would bring the case to the attention of the European Parliament, calling it a "dramatic violation of human rights."
"This is not an isolated case. As an MEP I have received tip-offs of similar cases of citizens with Bulgarian passports in Macedonia," Kirilov was quoted by Focus news agency as saying.
"This is not a case of maltreating someone for obtaining Bulgarian citizenship, but of maltreating the mother of a little child. As a neighbouring country and an European Union member state, we believe that this is because of her Bulgarian citizenship," Kirilov was quoted as saying.
"European standards have been purposely violated in this case. Macedonia should not have the illusion that compromises will be made when it violates European standards," Kirilov said.
Goranov, as quoted by by Mina on August 6, was a bit more crytic in his wording, as he said that "a diplomatic service does what it takes to persuade the other side. There are always loopholes so that you could step back later. We have to exhaust all other possibilities and receive a clear reply from the Macedonian authorities that they have the sincere wish to become an EU member state. They have to live up to all the requirements and we will follow whether they meet them. It is better for us to teach them to respect them [the requirements], rather than to put up a wall."
According to Goranov, the Bulgarian note sent to Macedonia on the case should be interpreted as an indication of the new government’s policy towards Bulgarians abroad.
According to Goranov, the Foreign Ministry had sent a verbal note to the chargé d'affaires of the Macedonian embassy in Sofia, Divna Trickovska, about Spaska Mitrova, a Macedonian citizen who allegedly self-identifies as a Bulgarian, and who had been recently sentenced to three months in jail.
"We are still awaiting for Macedonia’s official reaction to our questions in the Spaska Mitrova case. For now we have not received eithera written or verbal reply," Goranov was quoted by Focus newsagency as saying on August 6 2009.
"We expect to receive a reply within a week or so. If not, we have other means to raise the issue," Goranov was quoted as saying.
A day earlier, however, Macedonian broadcaster Mina said the Macedonian Foreign Ministry had sent its reply.
"Both counties must not allow citizenship and passports to be abused as an alibi in connection with divorce issues or tax evasion ... We expect the Bulgarian authorities to distance themselves from this classic manipulation, because relations between the two friendly countries must not be held hostage by people seeking justification for their family quarrels and crimes," Mina quoted the Macedonian Foreign Ministry reply as saying.
The Bulgarian note, as quoted by Mina said that the court had sentenced the woman only because she was Bulgarian. The note also said the Bulgarian ministry "had found other facts that raised suspicion that Bulgarian citizens as well as Macedonian citizens who would proclaim to be Bulgarian, were under administrative and police pressure, only because of their national self-awareness." In the note, Mina says, Sofia warns that it will "review Macedonia's treatment of this and other similar cases as one of the criteria, which are crucial for assessing country's readiness to change and kick-start its European Union integration."
According to Mina, the woman had been sentenced for not allowing her ex-husband to visit their 2-year old daughter, failing to observe a ruling of relevant judicial and social institutions.
Macedonian daily Utrinski Vesnik quoted unnamed sources as saying that the case was clear from a legal point of view and was not about prosecution of Bulgarian citizens. According to Utrinski Vesnik, after the sentence, the woman had asked and received a postponement and was supposed to go to prison on June 14 2009. Meanwhile, Utrinski Vesnik quoted its unnamed sources as saying, she had been granted a Bulgarian passport.
Bulgarian Socialist Member of the European Parliament Evgeni Kirilov said he would bring the case to the attention of the European Parliament, calling it a "dramatic violation of human rights."
"This is not an isolated case. As an MEP I have received tip-offs of similar cases of citizens with Bulgarian passports in Macedonia," Kirilov was quoted by Focus news agency as saying.
"This is not a case of maltreating someone for obtaining Bulgarian citizenship, but of maltreating the mother of a little child. As a neighbouring country and an European Union member state, we believe that this is because of her Bulgarian citizenship," Kirilov was quoted as saying.
"European standards have been purposely violated in this case. Macedonia should not have the illusion that compromises will be made when it violates European standards," Kirilov said.
Goranov, as quoted by by Mina on August 6, was a bit more crytic in his wording, as he said that "a diplomatic service does what it takes to persuade the other side. There are always loopholes so that you could step back later. We have to exhaust all other possibilities and receive a clear reply from the Macedonian authorities that they have the sincere wish to become an EU member state. They have to live up to all the requirements and we will follow whether they meet them. It is better for us to teach them to respect them [the requirements], rather than to put up a wall."
According to Goranov, the Bulgarian note sent to Macedonia on the case should be interpreted as an indication of the new government’s policy towards Bulgarians abroad.
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"Now just go and persuade your Greek friends of their foolish ideas."
Why would I do that? What business is it of mine, what Greeks do? If they start putting people in prison for their Bulgarian identity, it will become my business.
Besides, at least they speak Greek. You guys speak the same language as me. That's why it's fun to mess with you;) I love it when you call us "Tatars";) I just read in the other tread about the tremor registered in Kumanovo in FYROM. Did you know that the [...]
Read the full comment Kumans were practically Tatars, and they were Bulgarian allies in our wars with the Greeks in Byzantium?
So we, you and us, Bulgarians, (Samuil and co;) allowed them to settle in different location within our country. There's a few "Kumanovo's" in the area. I think there is one in eastern Serbia.
Word.
If you understand fully the meaning of your post
Why are the Fyromers so clutched on Ancient History
Alexander The Great statues and airports and so on.
My friend you cannot have it both
ways.
ЖИВ И ЗДРАВЕ ПРИЯТЕЛЕ
Thank you Valeri for agreeing with me that ancient history does not make a modern nation. Now just go and persuade your Greek friends of their foolish ideas.
Todor - yes 99.9% of those who got Bulgarian passports may not want them but only got them because they are of Bulgarian decent! Why should a woman have to state what nationality she is when she is involved in a custody battle.
Call yourselves New Macedonians or Northern Macedonians but dont steal history from others - much of which happened outside your territory.
appendix to previous post
due to haste i have missed the Aeolians come after the Pelasgians
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Words,
no, but I'll have just as much laughter if a Bulgarian denies being Bulgarian, just because the Thracians lived there before.
This is the correct anology.
Come on, admit it, you'd have fun with the Tukrs if they start claiming Byzantine/Roman heritage ... Genetically, they probably have even more grounds for that, because only 600 years a go, their land was East Rome, and the people are probably 70% the same DNA.
The makedonians are funny because they are reaching 2500 years for a heritage which was pretty meaningless [...]
Read the full comment to them 80 years a go.
Different language, different culture and religion - this is what makes us who we are, not some obscure blood line.
Also, I don't see how you can call me racist if I say that so and so is no different than me.
Would you deny Greeks being Greek if you knew Pelesgian and other indigious people inhabited Greece before the Greeks came? Would you deny Bulgarians being Bulgarin if you knew Thracians and other indigious people inhabited Bulgaria before the Bulgers came? Then why are you so biased and racist when the people of Macedonia want to be called Macedonians? P.S. Stop harping on Your Alexander connection as it seems meaningless as implied by the statement Aries made," to which period of history are you referring to".
Valeri
Yes you are right some cases are
simply hopeless.
Yes Words, Alexander was a Slav, from the orthodox presuation, like you guys.
Aries, I think there's no helping some folks...
Word
You still do not answer the question you are just avoiding it.
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Words.
To which period of history are you referring to
PAEONIAN,THRACIAN,ILLYRIAN,
DARDANIAN.LYNCESTIAAN,ROMAN,BYZATINE,SLAV,AVARS,BU
because all of them refer to the
south Danube area.
Words..
you are actually right, that we are basically South Slavs, and that would make any Makedonian claim on Alexander the Great's heritage, quite silly.
Within the South Slavs, in the 19th century, there was a national awakening, probably inspired by the French revolution, that clarified the national separation.
Within that context, the Slavs in Makedonia, traditionally considered themselves Bulgarian.
That was forcefully changed after Serbia acquired Makedonia, having been on the winning side of WWI, (don't kid yourself - Yugoslavia was a Serbian kingdom - you saw [...]
Read the full comment all the resentment of the others explode in the 90's), and gradually the new generations there, started to think of themselves as a separate nation.
All that's well and good, but the problem is that it isn't really a viable country, because of its size and position.
Their only future is within the EU, which may happen with difficulties - 80 years in Yugoslavia has done a number on their collective mentality, and as illustrated in this case of the article, some among them just can't deal with their neighbors in a way corresponding to their self-interests.
Locking her up was nothing short of stupid.
There isn't one precedent/example of any one/woman jailed for refusing visitation right to a spouse in the short lived history of that country.
That is a problem.
What's going to happen now, is that Bulgaria - until now a very enthusiastic supporter of FYROM in every aspect on the international arena, will place conditions on continuous support.
FYROM can ill afford that, since she is still in the middle of a nasty name dispute with another Balkan EU member state - Greece.
The condition BG will seek, (I just heard that from a person in the know) is guarantees for rights of anyone who consider themselves Bulgarian.
That means new laws, new delays, new problems for FYROM - as if 30% unemployment, isn't enough.
As far as who's who - hell -Bulgaria was Germany for 200 years - as the Visigoths moved to the Balkans in the 300's, before kicked out by the Romans, to be replaced by the Slavs - so?
To Dostan, Valeri Zoran,and Epal and other Greek phillhelenes. What Bulgarian roots do you have? There called Slavic roots, the Bulgar's were a warrior class from north of the Caspian Sea who subjacated the slavs and other indigious people of the region. The Bulgar's small population was assimalated into the larger Slavic and that's why you speak a form of the Slavic language. So when you question Macedonia's aspirations you should look to your history before writing your insulting and baseless opinions.
I can't believe that you can deny your ancestry. Don't tell me that the commo's did that good of a job. By accepting your Bulgarian heritage you will need to accept that you are the New Macedonia and than everyone moves on. Greece continues to be your no. 1 financial Backer and everyone becomes best friends again. Greece doesn't want another Mujahadeen neighbour. Listen to your former President , Gruevski is in with the Albanians.
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Yes Valeri
The line is sometimes too hard to discern and the situation becomes more and more
complex sometimes frustrating when there is a decision to be taken.
It sometimes leads to exploitation at one end and indifference at the other.
Veering their asses as you say is pilgrimage . Mecca (symbol) is for them what Jerusalem (symbol)
Is to us , if that does not affect me making my cross sign it does not bother me
If now I mix it up with history, politics ,oppression and [...]
Read the full comment hell God knows what, the structure
becomes rather unstable I must agree AND I SHARE SOMETIMES THE SAME FEELINGS YOU DO.
About BG symbols 32000 to 50000 of them are being used or miss-used by “MAKEDONIANS”
The best must for BG is to be in position to create equilibrated affluence I think.
The Yankees are the Yankees anything that does not pertain to show-business is unconceivable by most of their mind.
Folklore is "intelligable history"
not too complex I think.
P.S.
This is how I express my love for BG - making sure that my businesses grow, and educating my kids in the best private schools in the EU or US.
,,, so when my Makedonian brothers run out of BG passports to wipe their "you know what's" with, I'll collect some money and send them some ointments and bandages, to take care of the nasty consequences...
.. otherwise we may end up with a bunch of Makedinians eating dinner standing up, and that wouldn't make much difference to me either, now [...]
Read the full comment that I think about it;)))
Any way, sorry to keep coming back to this, but it's a beautiful notion, for a guy, probe to laughter, that is;)
Aries,
it's a very thin line.
Every display of symbolism, tends to alienate others.
When I lived in the States, their obsession with flags and symbols, gradually dove me to contempt for their country.
I am sorry, but for 60,000 people at a sports event, to stand up, put their hand on their chest and sing "Oh say can you see..." it soo retarded, that is almost close to the Arabs veering their asses in Mecca.
Similarly, even a passive display of Islamic symbols, makes me forget my general open [...]
Read the full comment minded nature...
I am sure Christian symbols make Muslims feel uncomfortable, of perhaps under attack.
Shoving BG symbols on anyone can't be good for BG. BG is getting more and more prosperous (that's a fact) and 3.5 million Bulgarians traveled abroad last year - like never before - and that's what matters.
The golden rule is that those with the gold make the rules.
We need more affluence - the rest is fluff...
.. including what bodily functions some Makedonians, would chose to employ our symbols for.
Valeri.
Thanks for caring.
Bottom line.
It still pertains to the same issue "USE" or "ABUSE".
Aries:
"laughing out loud
AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
your cup of tea!"
Sorry to hear that laughter isn't your cup of tea. It good for you;)
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laughing out loud
AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
your cup of tea!
BOTTOM LINE
you mix up "use" and "abuse"
Lol and I respect your infantile personality!
I am so sick of symbolism that I can't even describe it. BG has been a victim of symbolism for decades.
Hell, our brothers to the southwest (not to be mistaken for one of us) still labor under it.
In fact this is what got me interested in history and psychology. The more I read, the more I see that symbols are the source of much of the world's problems and tragedies - religious and national symbolism, being the biggest culprit.
[...]
Read the full comment I love that BG is so materialistic and frivolous - perfect combination for me. Some old farts still talk symbols, but this is why they are so miserable. Instead of getting your life and family in order, they're gonna straighten the world's symbols - good luck.
I guess that's part of my beef with the Americans (for Epami and those "in Europe" - the term "beef" isn't used to describe parts of a dead cow, but a passing grudge of sorts;)))
Historically, or should I say "geographically" they have been spared a good beating like we all in Europe, got in the numerous wars in the last century. They never got generations and cities wiped out by war, so they are still perky and militaristic.
They take "pride" in flags and uniforms - something most intelligent Europeans have gotten over with. Uniforms make people look silly and sad. Realistically, not symbolically.
No Comment
on Boiko's view of the political situtation in Bulgaria.
To Valeri.
Apart mercantalism , globalization,
and dolce vita, Exist Symbols; though i respect your juveline
views.
cheers!
България започва отново с антимакедонска кампаня ,демек Македонците са българи. Е хубаво де, сега с гръцките националисти са отново мазия а заборавяат че гръцките приятели не признават че има български хора в гърция .Това показва че българия с бойко е тръгнала в съдействие с сидоров към Фашизъм.
Евала на българската политика и тежко на българските граждани когато сега са под чизмата на бате бойко. Какива проблеми я очакват българия с турците ще се виде много скоро
Господ да пази българсите граждани от бате бойко и компанията
Евала.......
Go Dosta, thanks to the students there is a certain amount of sanity left in Macedonia. You are right our government under these Fascists Gruevski and his little monkey (Again your right Dosta Antonio really does look like a Monkey)have gone tooo far with this antiquity crap. My cousins who live in Canada believe all this crap. They were here on holidays in the beginning of summer and were going around preaching how great we were when we had the Macedonian empire all the way to India. What can you say Dosta they honestly believe in it. It seems Gruevski's [...]
Read the full comment brainwashing machine is working overtime in the Diaspora because here at home most people see him for the idiot he (Gruevski) is. Half of my family is unemployed and here we have a n Idiot spending millions of Euro's on statues. Dosta I'm studying this year in Vienna beautiful place. I think its up to our Macedonian students to show the idiots that evidence has always been there, you can't rewrite history not even with giant statues or millions of Euro's.
Aries,
Passports ARE a piece of paper.
I have 2 myself and it is meaningless.
Look, the Makedonians got BG passports for their own reasons. Some feel Bulgarians, some just needed the papers - who am I to judge them?
I was a favor.
Sure some of them would bite the helping hand - that's what every wounded critter would do. But then we were one not long a go, so I know very well what is it like not to be allowed to travel based on nothing [...]
Read the full comment you've done personally and to be excluded from the world.
I feel I was forced to take a foreign passport in order to exercise my God given right to roam the earth as I please, so I forget to be grateful. So?
Don't expect them to be either.
Pretty soon we'll all be in the EU and this conversation would be pointless... unless of course some of their hot heads don't screw it up for the rest of them, by posting on BG and Greek forums that we are occupying their land and go after every other Bulgarian folk song on u-tube that is stolen from Makedonia...
Hello! You would think that having the same folk songs, would be a tip off of sorts....
Either way, I don't believe that any nation deserves to be respected or disrespected. Too complex for that.
The Alexander the Great bit - different story - how can I resist having a laugh with it? It's too good.
Valeri
Your view of passports and passport bearers are quite frivolous
a little respect to the nations
involved in and represented by
those "pieces of paper' you clai
m would be of no harm. Symbolism may not necessarily end
to materialist earnings in present days but its history is there.
enjoy your cocktail
приятна вечер
Dosta
As Valeri states my congratulations
on the way you make your point.
Dosta
As Valeri states my congratulations
on the way you make your point.
Dosta,
congratulation on the clear thinking!
Obviosly the hope is with the young.
Epami,
(may I call you 'my friend'?;))
I am typing from my iPod touch, as I am sitting at a beach bar in BG - (did you know that there's wi-fi practically in every establishment here?) and life is sooo good, that honestly, it isn't particularly interesting to me if my makedonian brothers decide to roll up their BG passports, and shove them up in "you know where";)))
I have no idea how [...]
Read the full comment can that possibly change my life either way.
With respect, in your response to Todor you're being a bit crude and impolite. Todor made some perfectly valid points, which you don't really answer.
The day will come when we Macedonians are free from propaganda. Yes many of us do have Bulgarian passports but then again many of us have Canadian ones too. But as a student at Skopje uni. I have to agree with Vasiliev throughout our history many of our ancestors have identified with Bulgarian roots e.g. Delchev, Sandanski, Gruev, Karev, Nikolov, Miladinov Bros., and many more. This should not, however, be a reason that in the present we are not Macedonians. As all cultures throughout the world, we have also gone through a period of evolution and have developed our own [...]
Read the full comment identity. Just as the Americans or Australians are no longer British nationals that is as we are no longer Bulgarians. The facts are there, we certainly cannot deny that once upon a time all of our Narod identified as Bulgarian and only the most naive and imbecile minded still refuse to accept that they cannot understand a Bulgarian. I myself have never ever been to Bulgaria and but when we socialise with Bulgarian students at uni. we are the surprised ones who have been naively misled by our government that Bulgarian is an incomprehesible language. Don't be fooled people we are Macedonians but we must also accept our Slavic culture which had Bulgarian roots once upon a time but certainly did not have this pseudo ancient heritage rubbish they disseminate in America and Australia among the Diaspor. Why else would our Pm Gruevski want the diaspora to vote it s certainly not to help the 40% unemployed in our country no, only to get this financial support for a new ethnogenesis in the Balkans and build a Statue to prove our antiquity. As a Macedonian student who purposely didn't leave to study abroad I say to Government and the IDIOTS Gruevski and his foreign minister who walks around like a little monkey to grow up we already have a proud identity and stop the Crap......... We are Macedonians!
Todor:
"As far as Macedonians applying for Bulgarian passports, 99.9% of them did it for practical purposes and would wipe their you know what at the first opportune moment."
Ouch!
Isn't that slightly rough? Then again, their "you know what's" are probably used to rough stuff.
Hey, I have a great idea for a statue of Alexander the Great! It's brilliant, because it will show clearly that he was NOT Greek!
Get this: there are 5 young boys with their [...]
Read the full comment pants down, veering their "you know what's" his way, and he is looking away to the horizon! Not interested!
What do you think? Does it grab you?
First of all, in response to Valeri, she should be jailed exactly because it is the 21st century Europe. I mean, since when are fathers deemed to be second-class citizens? If you are a divorced man, could you imagine not being able to see your child solely on the whims of your ex?
Also, Ms. Mitrova was interviewed about a month ago on this issue, and she didn't ever invoke her Bulgarian citizenship then at all. She had the opportunity to state it and hide behind it then, but I guess see saw opportunism in it after the [...]
Read the full comment fact.
As far as Macedonians applying for Bulgarian passports, 99.9% of them did it for practical purposes and would wipe their you know what at the first opportune moment.
On the facts of the case as stated (which are complex), she could be imprisoned in Great Britain as well. Or deported !
The case should definitely be revised if any one can come up with evidence that she may be innocent. Human Rights Watch, UNICEF and Amnesty International would be the perfect organisations to handle the issue
But if no evidence can be presented, as the case appears to be, her dual citizenship and ethnicity cannot ob strain civil justice let alone international politics.
Best regards from Macedonia.
Of course this is Macedonia. Where there is more space between Gruevski's ears than there is land to raise a child on. The amount of Macedonians who have applied for Bulgarians passports has taken the Gruevski Government by surprise. It seems there are a lot of Macedonians with Bulgarian ethnic roots. L. Georgievski knew what he was talking about when he openly claimed while in Government that there are a lot of our ancestors who claimed Bulgarian origins, and therefore "we should not deny that from our history." In the end the truth will bite down and a few surprised [...]
Read the full comment people will wake up with a new plastic identity. I wonder what Andorra got in return for her change of mind??? Love is in the air, they just don't know it yet......
This is probably a little bit of both - her attempting to hide behind Bulgarian identity, and the court attempting to punish her for that identity.
Who the hell jails women in custody disputes in the 21st century Europe?
it dosent loock to good for macedonia this what hapents wenn u are landlock country and wait 10 jears til albanians are reach half the population macedonia well be like bosnia