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Greek PM firm on Macedonia name dispute

Mon, May 11 2009 15:19 CET

byClive Leviev-Sawyer

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Greek PM firm on Macedonia name dispute

Greek prime minister Kostas Karamanlis

Skopje must put aside excuses, nationalism and historically unfounded obsessions, and its hopes of Macedonia joining EuroAtlantic structures depend on its own choices, Greek prime minister Kostas Karamanlis said on May 10 2009.
 
Greek media reported Karamanlis as telling his New Democracy party’s central committee that the former Yugoslav republic’s hopes of getting into Nato and the EU depended on one condition: "The solution of the name dispute, (a compromise) which will be acceptable to both countries".
 
"History cannot be written off, history cannot be rewritten," Karamanlis said.
 
Athens and Skopje have been locked for years in a dispute over the use of the name Macedonia. Athens’ objections to Skopje using the name, which Greece holds to be historically unfounded and open to exploitation to back up territorial claims in Greece, have led Greece to block Macedonia’s Nato and EU hopes.
 
United Nations-brokered talks are expected to resume later in the summer.
 
Gjorge Ivanov, recently elected president of Macedonia, was expected to announce his approach to the name dispute on May 12. Ivanov was elected with the backing of the ruling party led by Macedonian prime minister Nikola Gruevski, who has taken a hard line against Greece in the dispute.
 
Bulgarian news agency Focus reported Skopje-based daily Utrinski Vesnik as saying that Ivanov was inheriting a list of political issues from his predecessor Branko Crvenkovski that were neither simple nor easy, and Macedonia was "stuck"  on the road to EuroAtlantic integration because of the name dispute.
 
On April 30, Macedonian foreign minister Antonio Milohovski said that Skopje was ready to continue dialogue with Greece "under Nato’s protection".
 
Speaking after meeting Nato Secretary General special representative Robert Simmons, Milohovski said: "Macedonia wants and is ready to reach reasonable compromise with Greece. The aim is this irrational dispute to be solved so that the region can reach together bigger co-operation and stability".
 
 

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AnonymouseTue, Aug 18 2009 08:02 CET

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Anonymous Aristotle Tue, Jul 07 2009 21:57 CET
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Guess who's back!! - what on earth do you mean ? Moi je comprends pas tes paroles - c'est comme une vache espagnole. ( ?Que Vd. habla como explicacion ?)

Anonymous Guess who's back!! Tue, Jul 07 2009 20:27 CET
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Explosion of FYROM has nothing to do with responsabilities, but with clear facts based on the actual configuration...

Anonymous Aristotle Mon, Jul 06 2009 23:37 CET
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to Gess Who's Back!! - clearly you have never studied Economics, or you would realise that professional economists don't have dreams - they just envisage/envision New World Orders in their sleep.

If you are talking about explosions in Northern Macedonia, that is quite irresponsible of you and you should know better. This site does not promote terrorism.

Anonymous Guess who's back!! Mon, Jul 06 2009 12:50 CET
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I have the feeling you are interpretating your own dreams...

But FYROMs explosion are THE reality.

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Anonymous Aristotle Wed, Jul 01 2009 12:19 CET
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Menelas - are you talking about me or about Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister? He is the source of the comment about "post-Classical neo-endogenous growth theory" in economics, not me.

Anonymous Menelas Wed, Jul 01 2009 11:48 CET
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Aristotle, you are so pretentious... If we dont have the same knowledge as you, then you dare to not talk to us? What a jerk! Get a life, dude!

Anonymous Guess Who's Back!! Mon, Jun 29 2009 16:31 CET
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Moi ?

Anonymous Aristotle Mon, Jun 29 2009 14:31 CET
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to Guess Who's Back!! - clearly you are not an economist, as I am. or it would immediately make total sense to you.

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to Guess Who's Back!! - do you subscribe to neoClassical archaeo-synergistic post-endogenous growth theory ? If not, I can't talk to you.

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Anonymous Aristotle Sat, Jun 27 2009 14:04 CET
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Yanni (two postings below) may have a point about the vulnerability of the Greek economy, which is (apart from Latvia, Romania and Bulgaria) the most fragile in the EU. In contrast, Northern Macedonia is starting from a smaller base and is less over-extended in many sectors, notably the banking sector where Greece is weak. So my prognosis as an economist is that in five years' time Northern Macedonia will have done better than Greece in terms of relative growth, and is less vulnerable to political or economic "implosion", at least according to post-endogenous growth theory.

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Anonymous Yanni Thu, Jun 25 2009 18:46 CET
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A short history of Greece from 1832,till 1953, a very poor country (third world) struggling along, the Americans came in with pockets full of money, mostly spent on the military. Through the 60's 70's and 80's improved conditions with American money. From the 80's till now with the help of the dispora and a new national identity, built it into a booming country. But with the huge debt and uncontrolled immigration will self implode in 5 years!!

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Anonymous Yanni Thu, Jun 25 2009 15:15 CET
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I am Greek and I am ashamed the way my fellow Greeks are potraying the real Macedonians!

Anonymous prediction Thu, Jun 25 2009 15:10 CET
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Kosta will lose the next election!!

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Anonymous Robert457 Wed, Jun 24 2009 17:28 CET
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Hi guys! My name is Robert, and I don't understand why my country wants to be called "Macedonia". We have nothing to do with Alexander nor with the greek heritage. We are slavic and we should be proud of it.
I'm really ashamed my compatriots are stealing the historic flag and name from our neighbour country, Greece... Anything good is coming from this. We are not in EU, not in NATO, our politics are spending millions for statues and flags. That's gonna be a catastrophic issue.

Sorry if someone will be annoyed by my [...]

 Read the full comment comments, but I wanted to express my frustration there.


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Anonymous Macedonia is Greek Tue, Jun 23 2009 12:54 CET
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Simple reasoning with total equivalence. Thank you.

"Macedonia is Greek and Greece is Macedonia. No compromise for this historical evidence and fact. Thank you".

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Anonymous Macedonia is Greek Mon, Jun 22 2009 23:43 CET
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Macedonia is Greek and Greece is Macedonia. No compromise for this historical evidence and fact. Thank you.

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Romania supports Greece in Macedonia name dispute – Basescu

Principle of good neighbourliness is an obligation for all countries whether or not they are European Union members, Romanian president Traian Basescu says during visit to Athens.

Hillary Clinton on Macedonia name dispute

Dispute must be resolved by parties themselves, but US is urging a resolution because it would be in everyone’s interest and add another member to the EU, US secretary of state says.

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Greece says it has no information about when Matthew Nimetz will resume efforts to resolve the Macedonia name dispute, while Macedonian prime minister Nikola Gruevski has been lobbying for EU pressure on Athens.

Skopje opposes ‘geographical’ name dispute solution

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Skopje determined to solve name dispute, president tells Obama

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Macedonia’s new president to be sworn in

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Macedonia's new president says solving 'name dispute' is priority

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