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Gabriel Hershman

Weekend Blog: Red herrings and the BNP

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Weekend Blog: Red herrings and the BNP

Former prime minister Tony Blair: Tough on crime?
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Former British Cabinet Minister Peter Hain, writing in yesterday's (May 1) Guardian newspaper, warns us that the British National Party (BNP) is on the verge of power in several parts of North West England.

Here is an excerpt from his article. "Electorally, the BNP has become the most successful fascist party in Britain, gaining 800,000 votes in the 2004 European elections and 238,000 votes in the 2006 local elections - up from 3,022 six years earlier. And last year it won its first seat in the London assembly, doubling its support to 130,000 votes. And now the BNP is looking to benefit from a collapsing Ukip vote; in 2004 the combined BNP-Ukip vote stood at 21 per cent."

Right now my teeth are chattering and I've developed Inspector Dreyfuss's twitch. 

Truth is, the BNP's "success" such as it is, is hardly surprising given the social climate currently pervading Britain. Also, I don't believe that the fact that the BNP is "the most successful fascist party in Britain" is all that momentous. How many fascist parties are there? Neither, in the BNP's case, is every voter or supporter of the party necessarily a fascist or Nazi as Hain and his ilk would have us believe.

Of course, there are Nazis in the BNP, just as there are socialists in the Labour Party, but it's an exaggeration to pretend that all BNP supporters are awaiting a Hitler-style takeover. Hain continues his piece by comparing the rise of the BNP to the success the party  –  in its previous incarnation as the National Front –  enjoyed in the 1970s. It's a clever ruse but a total red herring. Back then the BNP was an openly Nazi party. Now the political climate has changed to such an extent that many decent people are resorting to the BNP because they are simply at the end of their tether with the current failed political establishment.

In fact, no political party has done more to spur the rise of the so called far-right than Labour  –  and I say this with real regret. From the very beginning it has virtually handed votes to the BNP on a gold platter. Extremist parties, you see, don't grow out of a vacuum. Parties like the BNP flourish in a certain SOCIAL climate (contrary to what the likes of Hain would have us believe) that defies economic factors. The BNP's insurgency can be traced back to the departure of its erstwhile bona fide fascist fuhrer John Tyndall in the late 90s and his replacement by the more media-friendly Nick Griffin. In other words, its renascence PREDATES economic crisis. Its rebirth  –  surprise, surprise  –  matches Labour's period in power. That's actually no accident because Labour has done more to undermine Britain's national spirit –  law and order, social cohesion and that intangible sense of 'Britishness'  – than any post-war government.

One of the first developments under New Labour was the Macpherson's Report labelling of the police as "insitutionally racist". This undermined police morale to such an extent that the force was emasculated. The Labour establishment fell for this hook, line and sinker because it encompassed their world view. Only a few brave politicians like William Hague dared to challenge it. For years  –  as a consequence –  the Metropolitan Police indulged in a bout of introspective navel-gazing that deflected from the battle on the streets. It became scared of confronting black criminals. So was it really a coincidance that this was accompanied by a surge of inner city gun crime? I don't think so.

The Macpherson report was, in any case, fatally flawed. Organisations are composed of individuals –  nothing more, nothing less  –  and policy is dictated by individuals. To say an organisation is "institutionally racist" is very serious because it implied that certain people were racist in outlook and actions, either wittingly or unwittingly. The police should have said -"Who is it in our organisation you believe to be racist?" That would have wrong-footed the accusers. But, sadly, the police buckled under the pressure. 

Meanwhile, this charge of insitutional racism spread like wildfire through other organisations. I witnessed at first hand how some civil service ethnic minority employees exploited the race card when they wanted to escape sanction. And, naturally enough, bosses were reluctant to punish them for fear of being branded racist.

Do you remember Labour's promise to be "tough on crime and on the cause of crime"? Time proved this to be empty rhetoric. In fact, violent crime has risen under Labour. Prisons are full to bursting - not because of increased sentences but because the government failed to have a contingency plan to build new prisons. In fact, judges are under pressure not to impose custodial sentences because of overcrowding. Young offenders are not frightened of serving time anyway(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1160245/Yeah-sweet---sneering-words-killer-said-police.html) because they know sentences will be short (e.g two years usually means one, four means two etc.). Conditions inside jail are so unintimidating that many juvenile offenders actually WANT to serve time, wearing it as a 'hardman' credential or badge of honour.

Too many opponents of capital punishment are stuck in a kind of 1950s time warp, watching reruns of Yield to the Night on TV and invoking the Ruth Ellis case as they thumb through their copy of the Guardian. They fail to understand that crime in the UK now has no rhyme or reason. Appalling cases of mindless violence are occurring on a regular basis. What happens to the victims? They're dead and buried or lying in a coma, long since forgotten, or condemned to a life of endless pain and trauma. Meanwhile, the perpetrators (IF they are caught and jailed) get their meal, telly, hooch and drugs. Can anybody seriously read this story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080426/TV-presenter-12-operations-acid-attack-arranged-obsessive-fan.html) and tell me that the death penalty is NOT a suitable punishment for these monsters?

Another reason for the BNP's popularity is that the UK under New Labour has become a sanctuary for a barmy army of Islamic extremists and mad mullahs. The BNP has been outspoken in its opposition to these groups whereas Labour's usual suspects  –  Galloway, Benn, Livingstone, have supported them.

Hain ends his piece by saying that "all the main parties, Labour especially, must shake off their complacency and take on the BNP directly". I'm not a BNP supporter but Hain has got it directly wrong. The people of Britain are demanding change from the establishment parties. Above all, it is Labour's complacent attitude to crime that must be addressed. If it isn't, I fear that one day Hain really will have something to worry about.

In any case I suspect that Hain's warning about the BNP is nothing more than a cynical attempt to blackmail the British public into voting for centre-left parties, e.g. Labour again. I doubt if it will work. Labour's reached the end of the road. Time to go. 


 

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Anonymous Cherie B. Wed, Jul 22 2009 21:23 CET

oh gabriel you are easily taken in by the words of a bank robber !

Anonymous paul maleski Tue, May 12 2009 13:45 CET

British real-politik!
As I see it and I could be wrong; the reason why the British people are getting cheesed off with the 'do as we say' mainstream parties; is the fact, that the post war electorate were never given a choice,as to whether they wanted massive non-white/Christian immigration in the first place. The voters feel alienated, they feel powerlessness,they feel disenfranchised, and they feel very, very angry! In such a dire situation, millions of ordinary people know in their hearts, that the BNP is the only viable political party; offering hope for a better future, by reintroducing [...]

Read the full comment a more socially cohesive past. And that BNP members are not your typical Parliamentary hypocrites; that they believe in their ideology and will do their utmost, to find a way out of our present multi-cultural morass. Before it is too late!

Преглед на профил Анонимен Wed, May 06 2009 04:23 CET

The British National Party has been denied a main stream media platform for years. The rise of internet use has now enabled the party to by-pass this censorship and it is only now the main parties have realised this and cannot now suppress the message getting out to more and more people.
Robert Feal-Martinez (Sat, May 02 2009 15:07) mentions the "Question Time" event. This was actually broadcast over the internet and is still available on the BNP website. Just because the live audience was composed of BNP members I fail to see how this was "undemocratic". There [...]

Read the full comment was a wide range of questions answered by the panel and it made a refreshing change from the usual political snake oil salesmen you see on the BBC program with the same name!
Visit the website and see for yourself.

Anonymous mick kelly Tue, May 05 2009 15:23 CET

Robert, UKIP had 12 MEP;s and what have they done? Dipped well into the expenses trough? Yes they're experts at that. Corrupt just the same as the Lib-Lab-Con group.
Oh they're also good at getting leggless at the taxpayers expense.

Anonymous Sean Gibbs-Percival Tue, May 05 2009 11:00 CET

Ian Anderson`s comments above are typical of the brainless sheep of the Liebour party.
An obvious fascist and anti gay he is what is totally wrong with Britain today, he does not possess the brain power to make an informed opinion himself and swallows hook line and sinker the vile rantings of the criminal champagne communists fiddling while Rome burns!
It is every ones duty to vote British National Party on June 4th
then and only then will we start to get our country back from the swine!
Vote, vote vote BNP [...]

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Anonymous Roger Daley Mon, May 04 2009 23:49 CET

Why are people voting BNP in record numbers?
The mainstream politicians have got to face the simple fact that the white indigenous population of Britain want their county back; which has been sold off and generally run down by successive governments since and including Thatcher

The issues that need to be addressed are:-
The fact that we should have British jobs for British workers
Rampant immigration
The decimation of British industry
The need to re-establish Britain’s manufacturing base
The positive discrimination in favour of [...]

Read the full comment ethnic minorities
The threat of the creeping Islamification of Britain

With respect to race, I for one don’t care what creed, race or colour comes to Britain legally to live, but it’s got to be “When in Rome do as the Romans do”

What annoys me more than anything, is that I along with many others are being driven to the fringes of our political system in order to have a voice to register our disquiet on how our country is being run.

Anonymous Toby Johnson Mon, May 04 2009 18:18 CET

The BNP is not a fascist party. The words "fascist", "Nazi", "racist" etc are used by leftists to try and put down the BNP.

The truth of the matter is that the BNP is the only party with the courage to say that they will put the rights of indigenous British people over those of immigrants.

Is this so wrong? Well, lots of Leftists would say that it is, mostly because of the Communist dogma that they follow.

However, whilst Britain is still a democracy, people have the [...]

Read the full comment right to choose, and if a person who is not a BME decides to put their own rights of those of people who have recently arrived in this country and want to change it, then good luck to them!

AnonymousGeorge_baker@ymail.comMon, May 04 2009 14:05 CET

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Anonymous Marcus Johns Sun, May 03 2009 14:34 CET




THE CAMELS ARE A COMMING
The abuse goes on completely unabated Should those most peculiar of men who are called judges be sacked for incompetence and a total lack of respect to Britain’s generosity be sacked .


And have their pensions taken away. “Who sacks a judge.? .
“The house of Lords / the house of the living dead, remember it is the home office that employs those dangerous madmen ...Don’t get mad get even and vote BNP Euro June 4th and give [...]

Read the full comment labour and their judges a kick in the ballots.



Two Tamil asylum seekers have won the right to parasite off the UK taxpayers simply because they threatened to kill themselves if they were sent back to their country of origin.


The latest bizarre twisting of traditional asylum rights — which allow people to seek refuge in the first safe country neighbouring the one they are fleeing if their lives are threatened by others — is the result of a taxpayer-funded court ruling by the asylum swindlers after the Home Office turned down their original application.

The decision opens the doors for thousands of other applicants who only now have to threaten suicide to qualify to stay in Britain, no matter how flimsy or outrageous their claims may be.
Appeal Court judges said the pair’s “only perceived means of escape” from their situation would be to take their own lives, which would make deporting them a breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.

Lord Justice Sedley, sitting with Lady Justice Arden and Lord Justice Moses, said: “Hope can alleviate intolerable stress. Take away hope and stress may become unbearable.

Lifting the threat of removal would remove one of the principal sources of depression.”
Thousands of Tamils are mounting a daily protest outside the Commons demanding the UK puts more pressure on Sri Lanka to improve their human rights.

New figures show that 60,000 appeals are now coming before immigration tribunals, resulting in a total of 4,474 judicial reviews last year.


Remeber get out and vote BNP Euro June 4th.

Anonymous Bulldog Breed Sun, May 03 2009 13:59 CET

Ian Anderson Sat, May 02 2009 17:05 CET

What a sweeping set of unsupported accusations you've made. Would you care to tell us how you arrived at them? As for 'losers' voting for BNP, we are all losers thanks to years of Labour mismanagement. We need change. Has anyone here been to the BNP website and read their manifesto? It's good.

Anonymous Peter Charles Sun, May 03 2009 13:58 CET

What Mr Martinez fails to mention are is the pathetic number of votes UKIP have gained in every election since the euros because people have realised that UKIP have done absolutely nothing but pocket their euro salaries&expenses

Anonymous John Carnforth Sun, May 03 2009 13:34 CET

Sorry, Gabriel, but you are misreading the rise of the BNP here. What I mean by this is that there is a difference between why people <i>vote</i> for a non-mainstream party (ie "protest") and why they "support" a non mainstream party (ie, conviction).

The rise of the BNP is generated by the hard work done by its growing arm of supporters. Read about their extraordinary efforts on the website. This sort of devotion isn't driven by disillusion with a failing political mainstream. It is a genuine expression of an awakening English ethnic consciousness - we English [...]

Read the full comment are looking at our own ethno-suicide and rejecting it.

To know what that will mean, of course, you have to look beyond the party platform, beyond even the the people now involved in the party, to the sort of ideas that are being floated on the radical edge:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/to_do_what_we_must_to_remain_who_we_are/

This is where the shape of the future will come from. It will be a future in which the birthright of English children will be theirs once again, which is just and good.

Anonymous Tony Warner Sun, May 03 2009 13:08 CET

This reads like a "Daily Mail" editorial! Crime is in fact DOWN and GB is a far pleaasanter place to live than it was in the 80s, for example. The BNP is disguised thuggery (try attending a BNP meeting and if you do manage to get in listen to the racist rhetoric.) Where the writer is correct is in the apathy shown towards politics in GB, though I would argue that this is because the ordinary elector sees him/her self so far removed from the sources of power that the feeling is 'what's the point?'. This may change with the [...]

Read the full comment recession as it did throughout Europe in the 30s. Like Hain I hope that it will result in activism, not fascism.

Anonymous Rick Sun, May 03 2009 11:40 CET

Vote BNP on 4th June and start trying to save our country.

Anonymous George Deighton Sun, May 03 2009 04:08 CET



Abriel Hershman . I Believe is one of the growing number of Journalist, that is is breaking away from his politically correct chains and sees the dangers that lie ahead.

Political chains that have turned Britain into a gutless ghost of its former WW2 past The only living person that can save what’s left in my opinion is Nick Griffin .

And as a WW 2 London blitz survivor and ex soldier, I believe I can speak with some authority and experience .
I have [...]

Read the full comment seen hundreds of here today and gone tomorrow money motivated politicians from all parties come and go.

Politicians who don’t give a toss about this country except what they can rob from it. And today’s lot proves just that...

“Nick Griffin. Remember when labour wanted him locked up for 7 years for speaking the truth “

Anonymous Nick Barfoot Sun, May 03 2009 03:25 CET

Just when one thinks one has heard the worst madness possible for the European Union, another more ridiculous issue comes to the fore. The insane “rules” by which British elections are held means that Nigerian citizens who have Nigerian nationality and who are currently living in Nigeria, will be able to vote in all elections in Britain and the Euro elections in particular — by proxy, without leaving their homes in Africa.

Is there no limit to what this sleazy labour lot wont do for votes, its the job of every British man and woman to [...]

Read the full comment vote these people out of office. Vote BNP euro June 4th.

Anonymous Colin Munro Sun, May 03 2009 03:01 CET

An excellent and right on target article. It's the politically correct who have branded nationalists as Nazis, ignoring the fact that many Brits mourn the loss of their national identity. I left Britain on the basis that 'if you don't like it get out'. The increase in popularity of the BNP is a direct result of the mainstream parties alienation of the common man. It disgusts me that in a democracy we should be criticised for choosing who we vote for.

Anonymous Steve Sun, May 03 2009 02:16 CET

This is the first piece of un-biased reporting on the B.N.P. I have see seen in a news paper. In Britain, the news reporting is nothing but anti white propaganda.

Anonymous John Midlands Sun, May 03 2009 01:08 CET

No common and concise definition exists for fascism and historians and political scientists often disagree on what a concise definition would consist of

the term fascist has been used as a pejorative word.
A pejorative (also term of abuse or term of disparagement),
Peter Hain you must be a facist

Anonymous Robert Sun, May 03 2009 00:36 CET

With the exception of Scotland the BNP have been consistently polling around 10-15% of the vote in local council by-elections for a good 6-12 months now, which even allowing for a higher turnout should be adequate to gain at least 3 seats in the euros. The media and the establishment have shot themselves in the foot with their pathetic "no platform" policy and attempted smears which have given the BNP the opportunity to develop unapposed. I cannot wait for June 4th.

Anonymous J. Crease Sat, May 02 2009 23:40 CET

Both comments by Ian Anderson above are offensive, untrue, probably libelous & are the sort classified as a "hate Crime" by the so-called "gov't" he appears to support. If he looks up "Fascism", he would see that it mans a "dictatorial political system" or "rule by a dictator", which is exactly what we have NOW. The BNP has members who are Jewish, Gay, disabled, Married to foreigners, British Gipsy Etc. WE do not hate ANYONE for who or what they are, unless they are trying to destroy our Country. What is wrong with that? Unless you SUPPORT terrorists of course. [...]

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Anonymous Rusty Sat, May 02 2009 23:26 CET

At Last an attempt at a fair article from someone that does'nt wear establishment "Blinkers" (at least some of the time). Before I take sides let me say I have a Gay son and a halfcast grandaughter, I have served HM forces for over 20 years (alongside fellow soldiers of many colours, races & religions). If I could do it all again I would still stand alongside those men and trust my life with them. Am I Homophobic? Am I a Racist? I love my Country, just the way it used to be (Born 54). I'm ashamed of what it [...]

Read the full comment is now. I have no interest of being part of the Globalist dungheap that we are being forced into, by the scumbag politicians that currently inhabit Westminister. I want OUT of the EU. I want our country to be able to breath again. I want our royal family to mean something again. Most of all I want a place to leave my grandchildren, that THEY can be proud of. A place that they can be proud of their ancestors and their accomplishments. I have traced my ancesters back as far as 1570, all from England ,Ireland or Scotland and I'm dammed if I will let my Decendents down without a fight. I may be getting old but I aint dead yet.

Oh and by the way I WILL be voting BNP...

Anonymous Brendan Scarborough Sat, May 02 2009 23:24 CET

It's pleasantly refreshing to read an article which - rather than confirming or reinforcing the agenda driven, propagandist rubbish pertaining to the BNP- actually states the plain fact. So many people readily accept and take as a given that the BNP is a 'racist' or 'Neo-Nazi' organisation, without having any clear picture either of how these adjectives can be reasonably defined, or why they might be applied to someone connected to the British National Party. A Nazi was a member of the NSDAP. A German political party of the 1930s and 40s which no longer exists. The term racist/racism has [...]

Read the full comment been so abused and misused, that to me, the charge of racism has lost any moral imperative, power or legitimacy, and is, as a rule, a politically motivated red herring. The accusation of racism has become merely an all-purpose magic bullet fired off to taint or marginalise anyone or anything which opposes the established order and those who support it; for varying reasons, but always in self-interest. The BNP is most defintely not the party of hate and intolerance, but rather the party of realism and practical discrimination. Discrimination not against people, but between good ideas and bad ideas. Multiculturalism/Mass migration. The EU. The destruction of the British education system. The serial re-election of traitorous, self-serving madmen. All demonstrably bad ideas.

B.Scarborough
britishnationalism.org

Anonymous Cherie B. Sat, May 02 2009 23:07 CET

Dear Gabriel, very well written article ! But you have not scratched the surface really, just left a finger smudge! The real issue is what you came close to is what now?

Labour have done precisely what they were elected to do, now their job is over... Wealth Extraction complete ! Now we must pay for it all!

What everyone has missed is the golden rule to getting elected in any country(particularly the UK)...he who pays the Piper plays the tune.

Why was our gold reserves sold at [...]

Read the full comment record lo prices and euros bought at the worst time.
Who stole my pension.
Who stole my endownment policy.
Why are house prices now at pre 2004 year levels (negative equity)
Northern Rock and Granite Financial Vehicle
Who is stealing my savings by printing Money.
Record debt levels for all.

Anonymous Alex Sat, May 02 2009 22:55 CET

Well said, 21 year old here definately voting BNP and I know a lot of my friends are too

Anonymous nigel podam Sat, May 02 2009 22:34 CET

the labour party are the biggest facist party, look facist up in the dictionary

Anonymous Oliver Sat, May 02 2009 22:19 CET

Thank God for this! This country DESPERATELY needs a nationalist party like the BNP, who will put first the interests of British people in everything they do.

I shall be voting BNP this June with my friends and family in the South-East of England.

Anonymous Roland Ratty Sat, May 02 2009 22:05 CET

Almost everyopne appears to agree
that the main political parties
do not identify with the ordinary
people of Britain.Especially Labour
who have done naf all for ordinary ffolk - except encourage the underclass to claim benefits and
have babies. They have done nothing to educate, give people opportunites in acquiring a worthwhile education or to acquire
useful skills and we do not have any immigration policy that seeks and rewards people with essential skills. The public are sick to the teeth with it. Further Gordon made a mess [...]

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in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wish UKIP and BNP best of luck.

Anonymous Timbo Sat, May 02 2009 22:01 CET

An excellent and timely analysis. The BNP have gained popularity because for years, the liberal establishment have branded anyone who dared criticise immigration policy, as racist. Ironically the BNP couldn't care less about being called racist and voters are flocking to them as a result. Until Labour, Tory and Liberal supporters can speak freely about the UK's chaotic immigration policies without fear of censure by their party, the BNP will continue to grow. I suppose it is the only place in UK politics where white people can speak their minds without let or hinderance.

Anonymous thunornogson Sat, May 02 2009 21:33 CET

A very perceptive article. Well written, sir!

Anonymous Dr Cornelius van Helsing Sat, May 02 2009 21:00 CET

Oh dear, we have seen all this before in my parts of Europe, and Transylvania is hardly a hotbed of democracy (good for blood transfusions, though, some of them authorised by the donor.)

The Extreme Right has wrought havoc in Europe within at least some of our lifetimes - please spot the danger before it is too late. (Or if it gets a bit too late - appoint stakeholders, but this time with a sharpened stake and a hammer.)

Anonymous Malcolm Foster Sat, May 02 2009 20:39 CET

"Electorally, the BNP has become the most successful fascist party in Britain"
Wrong - as usual - should read :-
"Electorally, the BNP has become the most successful patriotic party in Britain and, electorally, the Labour party has become the most despised fascist party in Britain"

Anonymous Anna Sat, May 02 2009 20:29 CET

Gordon and his hogs have truly disgraced this country! Liebour is finished!BNP all the way...

Anonymous Rhory Fraser Sat, May 02 2009 19:58 CET

A superb piece, blissfully free of the ridiculous hoity toity - ooh I couldn't even touch them - language that the liberal establishment in Britain always uses when discussing the BNP.

Just shows how oppressive the political/journalistic climate is in this country.

Well said anyway

Anonymous AbertaweBNP Sat, May 02 2009 19:51 CET

If it was not for Nick Griffin and The BNP, Britain will already have lost it's identity. We are loosing it everyday because Gordon The Moron is selling us down the river.

The electorate have had enough of politicians riding their personal gravy trains with all of the con tricks, the stealing,lying and cheating ways, while the elderly, poor and sick of Britain get nothing. It meant something to say you British once upon a time and God bless Nick Griffin and The BNP because they are the only part who care about Britain and It's [...]

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Proud to be BNP

Anonymous Isaac Brown Sat, May 02 2009 18:50 CET

Exactly what is a "Nazi"? Is Hain suggesting that the BNP want to build up the armaments industry, re-arm Britain, declare war and invade someonelse's country (eg Poland), torture and kill lots of people, open concentration camps? No - it's a meaningless smear, an offensive, hideous insult; just as in the term "Fascist". Hain should watch out, calling British people "Nazis", British people many of whom were bombed by the German Air force in WW2 and lost relatives fighting German soldiers, all controlled by Nazi Germany. Commie Hain should be horse whipped and sent back to South Africa.

Anonymous Harry Sat, May 02 2009 18:19 CET

Tom, you are right. As soon as Nick Griffin becomes Prime Minister, the BNP will solve all Britain's problems. They are the only party!!

Anonymous Tom Sat, May 02 2009 17:52 CET

The BNP are the only party who will stop our country from being invaded with immigrants until we are out-numbered in our own country.

Anonymous John Midlands Sat, May 02 2009 17:34 CET

The cause of the highest levels of immigration the UK has ever seen is not, as the government claims, global population movement but rather a series of failures of Government policies, says a new report from independent think tank Migrationwatch UK.

Anonymous Ian Anderson Sat, May 02 2009 17:28 CET

Now Britain has not got a sensible immigration policy.

If a BNP MEP is elected, it will never have one.

So don't vote for the gay nazis. Vote for someone else.

Anonymous john Midlands Sat, May 02 2009 17:09 CET

If the BNP gain a seat in the European Parliament it is unlikely that Britain will ever have a sensible immigration policy.

So what have we got now?

Anonymous Lee Barnes Sat, May 02 2009 17:07 CET


The Labour government are in the process of passing a law that will allow discrimination against White British people on the basis of their race and sex, they have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, created a politicised police force, eroded the right and ability of people to peacefully protest, begun to bring in I.D cards, criminalised free speech and given civil servants and local councils the power to spy on private citizens.

They have even fitted tracker bugs in wheelie bins !

The BNP opposed all these actions by the [...]

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Now remind me again who are the 'fascist' party in Britain.

Anonymous Ian Anderson Sat, May 02 2009 17:05 CET

The BNP is full of contradictions: closet homosexual homophobes, holocaust deniers who blame jews for the holocaust, nail bombers who "hate" terrorists. Criminals who want policies tough on crime.

And a slimy pervert of a leader who is in it for the money as much as the homoerotic kicks.

If the BNP gain a seat in the European Parliament it is unlikely that Britain will ever have a sensible immigration policy. Sensible people will vote against it to thwart the BNP.

There will always be losers who vote [...]

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Anonymous Steve Sat, May 02 2009 16:31 CET

The 2 mainstream party days are over, we have had enough of them.

Which is why the BNP is gaining more voters, and yes both Labour & Conservatives will try and smear them. 3 years ago i would have opposed the BNP now i see them as Britians only party to save us from the liberal lefties and having all out sharia law in Britian and keeping our identity

Anonymous John Midlands Sat, May 02 2009 15:19 CET

Labour is using the slogan "fairness not fear" in areas where there is heavy BNP activity, instead of its national banner "winning the fight for Britain's future".

It is also working with anti-fascist groups and using anti-BNP "battlebuses".

That should convince all prospective BNP Voters.

Anonymous Robert Feal-Martinez Sat, May 02 2009 15:07 CET

Rayatcov, to an extent I agree with your comments but it is only the stay in at all costs LibLabConGreens who do not wish to have the debate.

UKIP is happy to discuss, migration, the cost to the tax payer, the loss of Sovereignty. The loss of the pound. The fact that being outside the Euro Zone is helping at the moment.

We are also keen to discuss the lies over the Reform Treaty. We welcome these debates but it has to be said the BNP are not open and transparent either. [...]

Read the full comment They have invited the other parties to a 'Question Time' type debate in Cornwall. Fine you would think until you realise that the only audience allowed are card carrying BNP members. So much for democracy.

Anonymous John Sat, May 02 2009 15:01 CET

for some the BNP IS A fascist party

for many the BNP is Britain and our people only saviour

we are governed by Liars Cheats and Embezzlers in fact they are traitors

Anonymous Rayatcov Sat, May 02 2009 14:42 CET

I think most everyone has the wrong end of the stick here.
If the political classes are going successfully to take on the BNP – with the willing assistance of the BBC – then they are going to have to do more than sneer and call their members names. They will have to confront the issues raised by this party, tackle them head on and answer voters' concerns.

But many of those issues are in the "do not discuss" box, That leaves them with a soon to be failed strategy, when the BNP romp [...]

Read the full comment home with the spoils, capitalising on the very thing that the establishment is so freely offering – disapproval.

Anonymous James Sat, May 02 2009 14:02 CET

Ukip could make significant gains in the European elections but I also think that the British National party could also grab a few seats.

More then the "one" predicted by this article.

Now wouldn't that put the cat amongst the canary's.

Anonymous Gordon Sat, May 02 2009 13:35 CET

UKIP is dead! Long live BNP

Anonymous Robert Feal-Martinez Sat, May 02 2009 11:58 CET

Here is an excerpt from his article. "Electorally, the BNP has become the most successful fascist party in Britain, gaining 800,000 votes in the 2004 European elections and 238,000 votes in the 2006 local elections - up from 3,022 six years earlier. And last year it won its first seat in the London assembly, doubling its support to 130,000 votes. And now the BNP is looking to benefit from a collapsing Ukip vote; in 2004 the combined BNP-Ukip vote stood at 21 per cent."

I see Labour never let the truth get in the way of [...]

Read the full comment spin. For the record UKIP had a 9% predicted vote in January, as against a 3% predicted vote in April 2004. So far from losing ground we are well ahead.

Another minor detail of the 21% combined vote UKIP's was 16%, we had 12 MEP's and the BNP had none. No serious political analyst is predicting any more than 1 BNP seat and that is doubtful. Labour like the Tories are trying to undermine UKIP as they are both afraid we will poll significantly more than our 2.7 million 2004 count.


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